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Author Topic:   IMCA & Boubin fix the tire price !!!!
brownstone
Member
posted January 02, 2004 03:36 PM
American Racer sets the boundaries so they are doing this to us too.


CUSTOMPERFORMANCE
Member
posted January 03, 2004 09:15 PM
According to a local parts house they know nothing of this increase in price and I think this whole topic is just a bunch of hearsay till we hear it from the horse's mouth that its is going up.


inmod02
Member
posted January 03, 2004 09:35 PM
Simple Fix! If your track is not IMCA then allow any 255/60-15 DOT legal tire and go to your local tire shop buy them for $50-$60! Those american racers arent that special, they are just rubber! A little siping and treatment and you got a race tire.


MOD75D
Member
posted January 03, 2004 09:57 PM
It is called the law of supply and demand. Until promoters lose money they have no reason to change the way they business. The only way to change the rules is to have control of the only variable you have in the situation; your money. Sounds easy on here, but it is awful hard to not go racing when spring time comes around!


brownstone
Member
posted January 04, 2004 08:37 AM
Its not IMCA telling you that you can't buy from Day its American Racer. Try to get a late model tire or anything else and they will tell you the same thing. I assume Boubin is the distributor for that area but there has to be someone else selling tires in that area.


Greggie
Member
posted January 04, 2004 10:37 AM
IMCA104 had it right, guys.... Race Tires America decides the trade areas. IMCA has nothing to do with that. My supplier friend said that Boubin controls the market to Iowa as well as Missouri... It looks like we are along for a gouging. I have a couple of friends in the Iowa Attorney General's office that are going to make some preliminary inqisitions, but they didn't think it looked like there is much to go on yet.

My personal opinion is that some of you guys are giving IMCA WAY too much credit. They are an organization based in small-town Iowa. They have a large cash-flow, but their net isn't all that some people play it up to be. Yes, some of their rules dictate to some of the non-member tracks, but its still NOT IMCA that sets the price on the parts. My blame sets with the middle-man in the marketing ladder. My feeling is that IMCA SHOULD step in to see if there is price gouging occurring and if they get enough CONSTRUCTIVE encouagement to do so, they will.

Greg

avenger 11
Member
posted January 04, 2004 12:12 PM
I just got a 2004 catalog from Day. Day sells 2 different g-60s, one with IMCA logo and the other without. Both sell for $95, so i wouldn't put all the blame on IMCA.


avenger 11
Member
posted January 04, 2004 01:24 PM
One big problem here that i can see is...Lots of us guys from around this area have been running under no sanctions or much for rules for quite a few years now, so we have run the whole gamut of tire **** here Goodyears, Hoosiers, (2 types) and American Racer82-8s, 84-8s Mediums and Hards. And we are all used to paying 100 bucks and more for these tires. This year the local promotors at the tracks at which we race at,have seen fit to make the switch back to the G-60 15s. most competetors around here are delighted. I know I am. Even at 95 bucks a pop, i am gonna save enuff money to race a few more nights this season i know. ford5


modracr41
Member
posted January 04, 2004 08:50 PM
I think that what brownstone is saying is that if IMCA were to release their specs for their American racer tire to say hoosier, or goodyear, or even firestone, and that manufacturer would produce a tire that is made to the same specifications as the American Racer, it would give the racer a choice. This will also fix the "monopoly" on the tire market for modifieds. Also, if you think that this post is false, contact me. I also placed an order on the internet on Friday for a new wheel, and an IMCA tire to Day. The Day price for the new IMCA was $88. NOT $95. I completed the order and paid with my credit card. A few minutes later, I received a phone call from Day, and was told that there was a problem with the tire. He told me that I would have to contact Boubin tire in Iowa because I wasn't in Day's region. He was very polite and explained that if he sold me a tire and it got out, that Day would loose it's francise to sell the AR tires.
I then contacted Boubin tire and asked about buying a tire for the $88 and was told that the price for a tire was $95.
We sincerely need an acceptable alternative that won't be an advantage on the track, but will be a definite advantage in the pocketbook. Just my two cents and ......................See ya at the track!!


nut3d
Member
posted January 04, 2004 09:03 PM
wow $95 a IMCA tire is cheap. I'm havin to pay 102 with tax for one here in FL.


tilley88
Member
posted January 04, 2004 11:32 PM
Hey Brownstone, get ahold of Lynn at Winfab in Uniontown, Mo., north of Cape. Should be able to get 'em for around $86. Call (573)788-2574. Tell him Jeff sent ya.


dirtrace
unregistered
posted January 04, 2004 11:56 PM           
If IMCA went to a readily available radial you could sell them after you use them for something to a used tire dealer, there are usually several of them around...

I think the mods should go to a tire as small as the hobbys personally, since the motors are completely out of hand and the cars are only 2400 lbs. That would put some economy back in the economy mod class.

Wasnt the mod class designed to be cheaper than a bodied car since you can make the body or buy one cheaper than a s**** car usually??

They are also lighter with bigger carbs so hp should be easier to make, and cheaper than a hobby car or stock car. All around a mod should be cheaper racing. Now thats funny!!!!

ford5
Member
posted January 05, 2004 12:00 AM
i dont think Goodyear, Hoosier, or any other tire maker would ever admit that the american racer is the best tire design, and wanna copy it?


36k
Member
posted January 05, 2004 04:11 PM
That would be pretty neat, 36k, to go up to the local Goodyear store and buy our mod tires, wouldn't it? I had not heard about the Goodyear thing, but I can't believe that the big tire companies WOULDN'T want into this deal... Its a big market. It's too bad we can't trust the tire companies to not fool around or they could just have a spec tread pattern and compound and even an IMCA stamp if they wanted and then just let ALL the companies in that wanted to make them, but the minute they did that there would be a company making their tire 10 points softer and then they would have the market. Then it would be left up to the promotors to police the tires (what a mess that would be).

Greg

brownstone
Member
posted January 06, 2004 07:45 AM
Is there anyone with any influence with IMCA that you "IMCA" drivers could get to call the IMCA office to discuss this issue? I was thinking along the lines of Johnny Saathoff, the promoter from Boone, or maybe a group of promotors working together, etc.


36k
Member
posted January 06, 2004 04:59 PM
i live in texas and can buy the tires from day or smileys. email me if you want me to get them for you. i will ship them to you.


36k
Member
posted January 06, 2004 08:24 PM
Well, as a suggestion typical to one of the other posts in here, drop the IMCA spec tire and go to a street 60 series DOT tire with a maximum circumference. The tires must have the DOT cast into the carcus, and if need be, specify 3-4 manufacturers you can use and let people get to purchasing the $40-50 tire again.


speedyd1
Member
posted January 07, 2004 07:11 AM
we are a parts dealer in ne mo. were going to be selling the ar. for $91.00 each. We might be able to do a little better if you would want more then 4. Give us a call at 660-665-9024


pbrcowboy2
unregistered
posted January 09, 2004 01:32 PM           
dont know if this would help all that much but i have a dealer that sells the ar for 84.00 a piece let me know i cant pay for shipping though


willie
Member
posted January 09, 2004 02:35 PM
Pay to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


mod27
Member
posted January 09, 2004 09:25 PM
Ta-ray, you are going to have to do better than that. $91.00 is just high for that tire. Especially if you want to sell me more tires. LOL
We are going to price hunt this season. Seems some places south have the tire cheaper. Average price seems to be $83 to $87.00 which is still too high, but worth the drive, A few of us drivers have thought about getting together and making a run south. Get enough guys to jump in on larger quanity count and price gets cheaper.


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