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Author Topic:   Barnett series in AZ Vs IMCA???
DNS
Member
posted December 30, 2003 03:15 PM
I am new to modified racing . I was wondering if anyone can tell me the difference in the rules between the barnett series and the IMCA series. Also does Barnett still limit you to the American racer Hockey Puck tire? Where can I go to get this Info. Thanks for the input


udecide66
Member
posted December 31, 2003 10:05 AM
hey there, just thought i would put my 2 cents in, the run what you brung is good if you have a lot of money , the motors are getting bigger and bigger , because the cars are hooking the imca tires up. the crate motor is something that needs to be looked at to keep cost of racing down , especially if your just starting the mods, just my opinion,,,,,,,,,


bkap
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posted January 06, 2004 12:59 PM
The Barnett deal here in Arizona hasn't been completely defined at this point, at least as far as the tracks are telling us. Az. tracks, led by Manzanita, started a Southwest Dirt Modified organization but then decided to go with Barnett rules. There are four tracks involved: Manzanita, Central Arizona, Thunder (Show Low) and the new USA in Tucson. It's still unclear if we'll be SWDM running Barnett rules or completely Barnett. They claim some changes are being made to the Barnett rules but so far there are no officially-published rules other than what the Barnett series ran last season. Cars are allowed 5" spoilers. Anyone on lead lap can claim only the winner, $500 and a swap. Non-IMCA American Racer tires and any 8" wheel (no sticker). I think there are other differences but so far I haven't seen them. If you're going to run for "national" points, you have to sell $500 worth of Harley Davidson raffle tickets for a drawing at the end of the season. Otherwise you can just run for track points. We've been told so far that if you were IMCA legal last season, you can run the series. To me, that doesn't mean much until we find out what else is allowed over and above the regular IMCA rules.

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DNS
Member
posted January 07, 2004 09:10 AM
Bkap,

I had heard the same about the spoilers but I had not heard we can run different tires, is it your understanding we can run any brand or do they still have to be american racers. Who would be the most reliable source to talk to. I am new to mod racing so I am just trying to figure out what kind of tires I need to run so I can get going. This is kinda late for them to not be publishing rues at this point seings how there is racing starting as soon as next weekend. Thanks for the info I appreciate it.

Kevin20ta
Member
posted January 07, 2004 10:05 AM
Hey Undecided66, I would stick to the IMCA rules word for word. Run what you brung is what we have here in Houston and it is out of hand. When it WAS IMCA there use to be 3 times the amount of cars running, but now the run what you brung type deal has killed the class. More people can afford to run IMCA and they Won't get of hand.

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bkap
Member
posted January 13, 2004 08:21 PM
The rules on this deal have finally come out. Tires are IMCA McCrearys. New body rules are: " a) A rear spoiler not exceeding five (5) inches of total material and not exceeding the width of the rear deck lid is allowed. A maximum of four (4) supports (no longer than 12") may be installed on the front of the
spoiler.
b) a (2) inch fin is allowed on each side of the nosepiece. No other fins, wings, etc. will be permitted.
c) Engine side panels will be allowed for decal purposes only. These may not extend past the back of engine block. Must run parallel with the body of the car, perpendicular to the ground, and must be easily removable for inspection at any time.
d) Door panels may extend past engine block; the top of the door will be even with the back of the block but may gradually slope down, up to eight 8)inches past the block at the bottom."

They are allowing any racing transmission. Weight is 2350 with driver. No rule, that I saw, against rear starters and pumps.


Bumper
Member
posted January 15, 2004 11:27 AM
I think your wrong about the no teching in our class. If you are in the top 4, they look you over pretty good. I also know there were several cars DQ'ed last year for mud plugs on the RF, aluminum spool, nitro in the fuel, wrong mufflers, and 3 wheel brakes. As far as the motor deal goes, most people around here are building more expensive motors that will last. We do not have to worry about losing it for 525, so most guys are able to build 1 good motor as aposed to 5 or 6 pieces of ****. Last year we had alot of different winners, and there were no dominant cars that won everything. We mostly run on dryslick tracks, and along with the hockey puck,(american racer is required) tends to even the playing field alone. We have a very good points fund, ($80,000 went to 66 drivers) and some the best racing, and racers in the country. If you have any questions about rules, or just want know a little more about our series, you can call me at 915-637-0000. Thanks, Bumper Jones


bkap
Member
posted January 16, 2004 07:27 PM
Bumper,

The pricy motor deal is all well and good but what about those of us who build one "piece of ****" that lasts all season @ 7000 rpm on a refresh? I wouldn't run it at 8000+ like some of you might, so now I'm at a real disadvantage because more gear will get me off the corner better but it'll blow up at the other end. This new deal is going to cost guys like me some more bucks to keep up so I'm not sure about the economic advantages you all were touting. Course, having said that, it's now the only game in town and the discussion is really over. Life and racing go on.