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Author Topic:   Boubin Tire Raises Price???
posted December 29, 2003 01:40 PM
What happened at Beatrice?

posted December 29, 2003 03:57 PM           
Look Im a outsider, I moved to iowa in dec. I have raced for 10 years at tracks changing rules etc.

I thought IMCA would be good.

how can they claim to keep racing affordable when a hobby car running a glide, is spending more for it due to allowing hollow converters than the stocks or mods? thats a easy fix, functioning torque converter, but then TCI who has been selling more hollow converters in the last year according to scott on here, than theyve sold in the last several years would lose out on sales..

IMCA shouldnt be involved with lining pockets period, and its clear they are.

supposedly the imca sticker on wheels is for ease of tech it tells the tech men its a 15x8 wheel etc. so why cant you take a truckload of your 15x8 wheels and get them measured by a IMCA tech and stickered???????


posted December 29, 2003 04:55 PM
very very true.....Fury and dman AMEN

posted December 29, 2003 07:54 PM
Here's the lowdown guys!!!

Money has taken over our sport! Whether you run IMCA, UMP, USMTS, ect.... It takes a pile of it to go racing. All of the above mentioned sanctions are in the business to make money! Not help the local guy. Not help the touring guy. Not to help the fan.

Until racers start to treat this game as a business nothing is going to change. It will continue to get more expensive until the promoters and sanctioning bodies are no longer making money. Only then will they look for a way reduce the cost of racing. And to be honest, it's not the sanctions that are making it so expensive, it us! So what are we gonna do?

posted December 30, 2003 03:01 PM
I dont know about these tires in particular, but I used to work for Michelin, and there's a lot more to building a tire than most people realize.
Costs are fairly high, especially if the worker's are making URW union wages.I think the $30 tire is a myth, unless they come from Korea, and then the shipping adds up.The profit margin is not that high, the market is limited....
Still, its hard to see why the price jumped so much all at once...

posted December 31, 2003 12:48 AM
I am friends with a parts supplier that was selling them at $76 at the track in 2002. He said he was losing money and just wanted to get business in the door (He was a new business just getting started at the time). This year he was in line with the other suppliers at $82 - 84 and not losing money, but not getting rich. I think the gouger is Boubin. I suspect the manufacturer couldn't care less which tire they are building. It's ALWAYS the middle-man that makes the big money, not the producer or the final distributor. I look at the price of some of the "winter use only" snow tires and can't help but think that sincce there are so few warehouse distributors (4 or 5 nationwide I think) that it is totally the lack competition among W/D's that keeps driving up the price. In another year, we might as well be running the EC-2! Of course, that brings the horsepower issue back into the equation, and we don't need to make this class the land of the monster motors by putting THAT tire on the Mods.


posted January 01, 2004 10:31 AM
i met arvis back in 94 or 95 and he soon told me and my driver that kathy root(ceo of imca) pockets 20$a tire! if you want proof just float past her house on the cedar river,near vinton, and you will see what i'm talking about!the tire dealers arent making as much money as we all think.i know boubin's cost back then was about 30$a tire. we were buying them from arvis for 65$ each at that time!jerry &kathy gotta retire one of these days,but i'm worried that the tire price will go up even higher!

posted January 08, 2004 07:44 AM
I hear what you guys are saying, and IMCA is far from a perfect system, however, if you compare it to UMP, then it's far better. I've never seen a UMP official make a statement or comment on one of these boards. I've seen Brett Root more than once. He seems to care about what happens. As for the Roots getting rich off the racer, well, I don't think that's the case at all. I think that they do well, and I think that they should make some money for being the sanctioning body for a bunch of idiots that want to cry and complain like a bunch of kids when they don't win. However, I do think that there is a better way when it comes to the tire argument. If you read the post on , you will see that they have some very real answers to this problem. One would be to open up the tire specifications to another manufacturer and have some competition. Another idea was to open the tire rule up to a certain size passenger car tire with the stipulation that it must have a specified pyro reading after the feature. I'm not sure what the final answer is, but I can say for sure that paying $100 for a tire is not it. AND for the few that are going to say that I'm defending IMCA or working for them, that's just not the case. I work for a living and support my racing hobby myself with NO sponsorship what-so-ever. The bottom line is that this directly affects my racing cost and I would like something to be done about it. Just my opinion and ..................See ya at the track!!