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Author Topic:   Pull cable ?
jonniet
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posted October 14, 2003 02:15 AM
I have friends who have rules limited race cars that have to run either leaf springs or stock type 3 link ,4 links etc......the rules say no lift arms or pull bars....I was thinking on a leaf car you could creativly interpret the rules and run a cable ,say..down to the tail shaft of the trans.........anyone ever hear of such a thing ,or does anyone think it would work?


jonniet
Member
posted October 14, 2003 02:23 AM
after reading my post I think I need to clarify a couple of things....cable goes from top of rear to mount next to trans and could be attached to pull bar rubber some how on bracket ....some people will call this cheating ,some will call it creative interpritation.....or reading between the lines....I think it could be an advantage....any feed back ?


outlawstock17
Member
posted October 14, 2003 07:54 AM
heh, heh.....racers are always fudging the rules...

it sounds feasible, but with leafs mounted solidly to the rearend housing, i'd think you'd want a 90/10 shock up there and not a cable. besides, if that cable ever came loose and got wound up in the driveline, you'd wish you weren't so "creative".

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2nd2none
Member
posted October 14, 2003 10:53 AM
D&M chassis have a cable/rubber bisket setup on their cars. It attaches to top of rearend and runs backwards to infront of fuelcell around a pulley connected to rubber biskets.


jonniet
Member
posted October 14, 2003 04:46 PM
Just lookin for an edge ,...I cant picture how the d&m deal works ?....and that would certainly suck if that cable got wraped around driveline


2nd2none
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posted October 15, 2003 08:07 PM
Try this pic out, its kind of close to what D&M has built, it's been a while since i saw it so this is going all off memory


Dustejr73
Member
posted October 15, 2003 08:17 PM
as was said earlier, it wont work on a leaf car, it will limit the leafs ability to wrap up and do its job.



zeroracing
Member
posted October 16, 2003 02:46 PM
2nd to none ,this D&M deal looks like the rear cable is for braking .Is the front running line also a Cable?,if not I think you could make it a cable and it would work on a leaf with floaters like zero said or you could use it on a two link .....I guess if you dont try stuff like this you will never know if it works.....I will have to see if my friend wants to try it.....Hey Duste jr. I would never try something so creative at medford [IMG] because if I ever got questioned about it I think Irvings message board would probably burst into flames with bikering and acusations.....and then my weekly entertainment would be gone http://www.thedirtforum.com/ubb/smilies/cwm1.gif[/IMG]


outlawstock17
Member
posted October 16, 2003 09:28 PM
zero, that wouldn't work unless you had 2 cables.....one to control pinion angle when accelerating and one to control pinion angle when braking. seems to me a pull bar or a spring bar would be better with a floated housing and leaf springs.


2nd2none
Member
posted October 16, 2003 09:51 PM
it is for braking.

outlawstock is correct, with b/cages on leafs you gotta have something to set pinion with so how would a cable with a bisket on it or a solid cable work better than a bisket pullbar or solid pullbar? Keep thinkin tho, there's always an edge someone hasnt thought of.

zeroracing
Member
posted October 17, 2003 12:20 AM
Remember guys I am thinking about doing this on a car with rules that do not allow pull bars or lift arms.....what if you where to float the right rear leaf only and have the left rear clamped to set pinion angle ....I have read in the archives about this floated leaf stuff and I have found that some run a pull bar with it and some dont sooooo,maybe the cable to the front would work afterall.....anyone have more thoughts on this?


Greggie
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posted October 19, 2003 10:34 AM
It looks to me like you could toss the cable idea and run a rear-facing "push-bar".

Greg

jonniet
Member
posted October 19, 2003 04:08 PM
Ohh,Greggie exploits yet another grey area !....I didnt think of that one .....what kind of angle do you need to run the push bar?


dirtracer14
Member
posted October 19, 2003 05:40 PM
Hey jonniet there were a few mods at sos that ran pushbars on there mods. Im sure if you ask around you would find someone to help with the angle down there. I have a car with a pushbar and kept it at about 7 to 10 and had more bite than i wanted!


jonniet
Member
posted October 20, 2003 02:28 PM
Thanks ,.............so much time to think and so little time to actualy do something ,you know what I meen !