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Author Topic:   engine rules for '04
jeff
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posted October 22, 2003 06:02 PM
I have heard many people say that is makes a bad driver good. An average driver better and a good driver the same. In other words,the faster you are,the less it helps. Advanced drivers already have a good feel for knowing when to feather the throttle. Watch for the guy who normally runs in the back of the pack and all of a sudden, is in the hunt.

Here is a small hint for your tech's...take a magnet and ask the driver if you can run it over his MSD box while the car is running. IF...he lets you,listen for an increase or decrease in RPM. Test two, run a magnet over the box when it isn't running and listen for a very very slight beep from inside of the box. Most people wouldn't care if you run a magnet over thier MSD box...if they *****...you know the deal.

lucky13
Member
posted October 26, 2003 08:08 PM
My complaint about traction control is it robs the drivers with good talent of the wins they deserve. When the cars and parts you buy become more important than the people in them we might as well race RC cars. Racing is aboutthe people not the parts.


Wauge28
Member
posted October 27, 2003 08:54 PM
Lucky13, I agree. There are systems out there that are nearly undetectable. For "most" Saturday Night Mod racers, I think based on cost, the ignition based stuff is the most widely used...or abused.

Super simple fix. USE ONLY STOCK HEI DISTRIBUTERS. Any drvier can sway any dist. for any others in the field. Exchange plus $ 25.00 for the labor of swapping.

The rule would allow aftermarket cap and modual but a fear of losing it to a stock modual nd cap night after night might keep people from spending more than $ 90 on a stock NAPA reman.

This might solve a couple problems. If a dist. drops off after 6500 rpm's, it might stop people from building the high winding, high dollar motors. Next we work on a restrictor plate and we might not all spend 15 to 20 K on motors to win $ 500. ???


madmodshoe
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posted October 28, 2003 01:40 AM
Tc is virually undeTECHtable. There are company's out there that can and will install it into your cage with fiberoptics. TC can and is regularly beaten. To beat it you have to be perfect for twenty five laps. The guy with it doesn't. Most systems out there today can be set-up to only reduce 10-20% of the power which is unnoticable to the ear because usually when it's working you are acclerating, not WOT.
Restricter plates don't work to curb costs, just speeds. How much does DEI spend each year on plate programs? If you really want to cut engine costs then go to a spec 1" header primary! That will get rid of the compression and the cubes all in the same swipe! If it cannot exhale, then it don't matter whats trying to pump it out.


dirtracer14
Member
posted October 28, 2003 09:30 PM
Madmodshoe i hear you on the smaller pipe deal it would be easy to swap if you went to a track that you didnt have to. I do think they are going to do somthing with the motors soon i just do not want to see a restrictor.... i dont have the $$ to spend to get the motor just right!! Plus with the smaller pipes its like puking threw a staw!!!!


Camaro_Dude_1991
Member
posted October 29, 2003 10:50 AM
I think it ought to be run what ya brung.


demonalchohol
Member
posted October 29, 2003 12:04 PM
if imca does not go to a points style ignition with a mechanical drive tach we are all in trouble. i know davis claims to have it for points style ignitions, but i bet when you see it, if he even has one, that its a electronic ignition in a point style housing. he can not change the timing electronically on something that fires mechanically.


lucky13
Member
posted October 29, 2003 06:48 PM
OK OK, T/C......It's starting to seem to me that this hole "t/c" thing is becoming an excuess for the guys not winning. Just wandering what others thought of that. If your fast your fast, not everyone can drive a car deal with it. Even if you have the best of every thing on the car, it still dosen't mean that you can drive. Look at it like this, very few guys win every night. If they do it's probably because they don't have any competition.


LAWEST
Member
posted November 06, 2003 09:13 PM
All going to Vertex magneto next year to eliminate traction control!