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Author Topic:   Rumor or True?
Mod57
Member
posted August 17, 2003 02:11 AM
I know efective this month that no dual traction devices, like a fifth arm and a pullbar. Havent heard anything about same links on both side.


mike10az
Member
posted August 17, 2003 02:49 PM
does that make the 4 bar wishbone setup illegal?


tbird
Member
posted August 17, 2003 11:45 PM
I heard the same rumor so I called IMCA and was told that it's not true. It was just a converstion of "what if's".


Mod57
Member
posted August 18, 2003 02:25 AM
It was in my May issue of the Imca newspaper. The wishbone is legal but you can only have one pull bar.


CUSTOMPERFORMANCE
Member
posted August 18, 2003 10:00 PM
Lift arm or pullbar not both like the pierce/shryock cars are. Run one or the other not both.


mod4
Member
posted August 19, 2003 09:17 AM
Remember when the "rulemakers" did their best to encourage car counts and minimize change and cost ?

Yeah, I don't either.

What is the "reason" for this rule ?
How does it improve the sport?

I have never seen a Pierce or Shyrock car in my life, and last year added a short liftarm to the left side of my pinion along with the centered pullbar I have always run. It works, it helped my 6 year old chassis to keep up with the 4 linked three-wheelin' forward bite rocketships that started showin up.

So much for my thoughts of racing at the SuperNationals in 2004.


old racer
Member
posted August 19, 2003 08:48 PM
Customperformance: How are the cars configured that are running a torque arm and pull bar??? I'm assuming that the torque arm is used as braking device angled toward the RF tire (like the late models run)and the pull bar is used as a traction device. Is this correct, please explain how everything is set up.


mod4
Member
posted August 20, 2003 12:26 PM
We had this talk on here a while back, I displayed a pic of my setup. You can see the whole thread and picture here :
http://www.thedirtforum.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/002342.html



Chad
Member
posted August 20, 2003 01:21 PM
Mod4- thanks for the info link and the picture. I'm going to pass it along to a buddy of mine that's been talking about the dual setup.

[This message has been edited by Chad (edited August 21, 2003).]

spde
Member
posted August 20, 2003 05:12 PM
If I can jump in on this. I have a 2003 Pierce Mod. We use our pull bar for traction and the lift bar for braking. We do not load the rearend with both bars! IMCA said they wanted to limit the cost of racing so they were outlawing this set up. They also stated "we don't want this to become late model racing." This was a slam on Bob, aka his late model racing. IMCA is all about the politics and that is terrible!! I also think DW complained enough to get things changed. I can't run a $90.00 lift bar and chain, but I can run a $1300.00 transmission. That makes since!??? I'm glad I don't run a a sanctioned track. With that said we are going to Boone next month and we have a new rear end setup were are testing right know. I just hope they don't find a new reson to change the rules. Gl ltr Spde


hamer36
Member
posted August 20, 2003 05:40 PM
So i guess this would also make a leaf car illegal if it has a pullbar and a short leaf in front of the rear? This IS getting rediculous!


hamer36
Member
posted August 20, 2003 05:43 PM
SPDE, I agree about DW whinning ...I see even their house driver has switched to a Pierce!


CUSTOMPERFORMANCE
Member
posted August 20, 2003 08:17 PM
Yes Chad you are correct.


magpie
Member
posted August 21, 2003 12:31 AM
Sound slike you are describing the torque arm/lift arm. Legal to run as far as i know.


spde
Member
posted August 21, 2003 07:33 AM
Ya, we run a against the house car (Clark) all the time. His lastest car is just like mine! This chassis setup is fast. But I will tell ya that our cars are not the same! It has the same links, but thats it. Postions are different and the front clips are too. A stock FR-1 chassis is still legal. The IMCA rule says any rear end system w/ only one traction system. Weather its for traction or braking. This whole rule is a sham. Its the same way Areo got Bassets double lipped wheel to be not IMCA legal. If you ever ran that wheel, you know it was the best ever made. It made the wheel stronger and it didn't tear when you got against something. Enough complaining got to go. ltr. spde


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