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Author Topic:   DW8 no side bite
jmsmodfan
Member
posted August 04, 2003 10:10 AM
SOFTEN THE RR AND PUT A 5" OFFSET ON THE RR. LOWER PANHARD BAR. SOFTEN COMPRESSION ON RF.

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dirtbuster
Member
posted August 04, 2003 11:52 AM
lower jbar at the pinion to put more angle in it.... put some lead high in the middle or right side of the car... take out some cross...


tdevans
Member
posted August 04, 2003 09:07 PM
Gotta disagree with ya here, TD. I'll go with the J-bar anytime the track dries out. Placement means everything. Lower that bar on the chassis side! Go 7-8 inches on that DW! The shorty bar is too itchy on dry slick.


jmsmodfan
Member
posted August 05, 2003 08:53 AM
Where do you have it on the pinion side. Sounds to me like you have it too high on the pinion mount. Should be at or just below the pinion shaft


tilley88
Member
posted August 05, 2003 11:34 AM
Yeah, sounds like you need to lower the pinion side. Also, I was referring to the 2X2 square mount on the DW8's(chassis side). I'm not familiar with other makes.


jmsmodfan
Member
posted August 05, 2003 04:22 PM
when you say if you lower the frame mount the bar is parallel do you mean the actual bar is level with tthe ground or the bolts are level. Dont worry about the bar it doesnt matter what shape the bar is all that matters is the mounting points. You have to imagine a straight line drawn throught the bolts not the actual bar shape. If you have it sitting on the ground and have about 5" difference in mounts fro 1 end to the other you are about right. Maybe drop the frame side a little bit more.
Where do you have your lead mounted? high? low? left ? right?


jmsmodfan
Member
posted August 06, 2003 11:26 AM
Are you sure it is a sidebite problem?
What does the car do and where in the turn does it happen? on the gas? off the gas? before middle or after? etc....


jmsmodfan
Member
posted August 06, 2003 01:38 PM
Try less stagger, less air pressure on that RR, and/or tucking in the RR more/pulling out LR more on offsets.


dirtbuster
Member
posted August 06, 2003 02:23 PM
if the car is good in and through the corner and only slips on exit then I dont think it is a sidebite problem. Sounds more like a corner exit problem.
Have you tried slowing down you throttle ratio so that the driver has more feel on the pedal?
Increasing or Decreasing rear gear?

Have you squared the rearend, could have too much static rear steer and when the car rolls it will put more rear steer in and will be loose out of the corner.

What offsets do you have on the car?



jmsmodfan
Member
posted August 06, 2003 02:44 PM
I think the 4" offset wheel would be on Lf and 3" on RF.

Leading the LR will loosen the car up.

You will get the rear steer mostly when the car rolls over in the middle of the turn.. The left rear of the car comes up and pulls the axle forward, making the car turn and loosening the car. By corner exit you want the car settling back down moving the axle back and driving straight off the corner. Maybe you should try moving your LR bar down a hole or 2 and see if it helps. Then go from there. Or you may want to try raising your RR bar up a hole. In my opinion you dont want the RR bar running downhill to the frame and it seems like on our DW in the bottom hole it did. If nothing else put both in the 2nd or 3rd hole up and see what happens and adjust from there.
Sometimes i think the LR can get so much bite and steer that it holds the car up on the bar and in turn keeps it driven forward under the car keeping the loose roll steer in it. Without angle in the RR bar to make it bite and help push the right side back up the car will stay loose off the corner because the axle is steered to the right.

Just my opinion and may or may not work for you.

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dirtywrench13
Member
posted August 09, 2003 06:28 AM
DIRTBUSTER IS RIGHT ABOUT THE WHEELS,3'S ON THE RIGHT, AND 4'S ON THE LEFT.I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN PUT YOUR SPRINGS OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE AXLE-LEFT ON THE REAR AND RIGHT ON THE FRONT?ALL THE CARS I SEE ARE THIS WAY.


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