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Author Topic:   Fast everywhere but mid-turn, push
posted June 17, 2003 08:10 AM
Normally a mid-turn push is caused by being to tight going in. Maybe look at it with that in mind and your setup might show what's going on.

posted June 17, 2003 08:46 PM
Had the same problem on our other car,Harris 3 link,I raised the panhard bar to decrease sidebite.The car was really fast.

posted June 17, 2003 09:02 PM
Could be to much rear %, as mentioned above decrease panhard bar angle.

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posted June 19, 2003 12:08 PM
more stagger.

posted June 22, 2003 02:21 PM
Need a stiffer right rear spring or a softer right front, higher rear roll center or more stagger.

posted June 27, 2003 09:05 AM
One other scenario is that you or your driver is going in too low in the first place... My car is awesome going in and coming out, but if I go in too low, it pushes the front-end in the middle.


posted June 27, 2003 10:26 AM
George and Greggie are on the right track here!

posted July 01, 2003 10:58 AM
Where have you been? I heard you've been kicking a** at HRP these days. How many have you won this year? Just curious and.............See ya at the track!!

posted July 01, 2003 01:09 PM
Moprmike, I don't live in the Houston area, but I have a friend that does, and he runs a mod. You may have seen the 3X car there before. I live in Missouri, and yes, I do run a mod also.

posted July 03, 2003 11:48 AM
What kind of car, what kind of rear suspension are you running worldcom?

posted July 06, 2003 07:53 AM
what do you have for a pull bar? we had the same problem, the only thing i did was to move the pull bar on the axle housing end about 1/8 of an inch.we use the oldest pull bar i've ever seen,dont even know what brand it is.and the front of it is pointed at the right front wheel.long one on a d-w8.about 3/4 of an inch from the side of the bracket.grade 8 allthread and jam nuts work great and leave a lot of room for adjustment.

posted July 06, 2003 05:44 PM
Worldcom, try a 1/4" lowering block in addition to what you are running. Since you are good everywhere else, it might just be that your rear roll center is just a little high. I am assuming you have already tried the stagger thing. The deal there is it would loosen you coming off, too. Also, make sure your toe is 1/8" out and it is not IN. I don't think I'd get too shook up about bump-steer. Knowing what you have for a car, you probably are just skipping the LF on the ground in the corner anyway, and steering off the RF. Chances are, it will be pretty consistent and not do much to your handling.


[This message has been edited by Greggie (edited July 08, 2003).]

posted July 20, 2003 10:13 AM
I'm not trying to contradict anyone. I think the guys commenting on this forum are very knowledgeable. But, Worldcom, you were given the advice to lower your rear roll center to help the center push condition. It has always been my experience that you raise the rear roll center to loosen the car, and lower it to tighten. I do want to say that I don't have any experience with leaf cars (since my old street stock days), but that adjustment doesn't sound correct. Typically, I have found that a throttle push is attributed to an excessive amount of cross weight (wedge). You may also want to look to loosen the car at entry. The car may be too tight getting into the corner causing a tight condition. The tight entry may also be caused by your line. Make sure you aren't entering the corner too low, this can cause the car to be tight in the center. Just a few things to think about, hope it helps.

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