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robhbk24
Member
posted February 22, 2004 09:28 AM
How much aero can there be. You are only going 60mph. Give or take. So I would say go with the cheapest/lightest combo for you.

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bobaluuu
Member
posted February 22, 2004 10:06 AM
[B]How much aero can there be. You are only going 60mph. Give or take. So I would say go with the cheapest/lightest combo for you.
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DMA Racing
Member
posted February 22, 2004 10:21 AM
if you have a weight rule like 3,000 lbs. i dont think the body, if it's made out of cardboard and duct tape is going to that much difference on a short track. i hate to have to use stock steel bodies,to much work and getting to hard to find them


robhbk24
Member
posted February 22, 2004 10:52 AM
keep in mind a late model is going 100+ on some of the tracks they run and have big spoilers and a sealed cockpit. in stocks with a wide open cockpit no spoiler and going about 1/2 as fast it's not going to make a difference outr track alows us to run the newer style monte and regal bodies on metric cars in outr stock car class and the guys with those bodies didn't win any more then the guys that had the metric bodies. just like 33 said if you already have the nose the rest doesn't matter


Wind Walker
Member
posted February 23, 2004 01:12 PM
I've always felt that this rule should include the "Option" of using an aftermarket replacement part, instead of having to rely on junk yard parts, or either fabricating your own, which in our rules, 22 gauge sheet metal is required.

As long as there is a weight rule, I can't see the problem of using aftermarket replacement body parts (stock deminsions & appearence) for those who choose this route. It might be a little more expensive overall, but I can't see where using such parts creates any advantage, so why not include it within the rule as an "Option".

To many "rules" to me creates more expense for the class overall (talking about Hobby & Super Street only), and always have increased the overall cost of competing.

I've always favored the old rules from years ago, when we had a weight rule & tire rule, but other than that.........RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG!

The owner of the track (30 years ago), always had a saying for the engine rule:

If it will crank, it's legal......LOL!!

Have a great day,
Wind Walker


towmandan
Member
posted February 23, 2004 04:50 PM
Your not running fast enough to make much difference since youve got the good nose save the money and make your own body panels.... youll save money and have free beer you cant beat a deal like that.....Towman


racer17j
Member
posted February 23, 2004 04:53 PM
i'm with you wind parlty a track here is alowing a couple cars to run after market stuff has to keep stock floor pan,hood roof and deck lid rest steel aftermarket anymotr here in the midwest we are going around 200 for a good body figure in torch gas body work and paint and it's actully cheaper to run the aftermarket stuff as far as the other rules go the best thing ever to happen at our track was a motor limit went to a 360 cid 9-1 comp and went from 3 different winners a year to about 10 different guys winning each year


joetaylor
Member
posted February 23, 2004 07:15 PM
I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY BODY IMPROVE PERFORMANCE AS LONG AS YOU HAVEA GOOD NOSE MAKE THE REST YOUR SELF IF YOU CAN. I PERSONALLY RUN A STOCK BODY BUT IS JUST THE SHELL I HAVE A RAISED FLOOR WITH KINDA A BUILT SPOILER ON THE INSIDE. THE SIDES DON'T HELP WITH AERODYNAMICS.

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bobaluuu
Member
posted February 23, 2004 07:26 PM
OK, OK now I gotta get in on this one. are you guys sayin that a latemodel monte nose will give a speed advantage over an old style
(86-88) monte nose at 60 to 70 mph on a 3/8ths med banked track. If so lets get some of the professors on this forum to calculate how much. come on guys get those calculators smokin.

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robhbk24
Member
posted February 24, 2004 02:10 PM
my cost is fairly cheap on the bodies i cut the bodies off 2inches below the factory pinstriping cut .040 aluminum fenders doors and rear quarters the hood is a stock cutlass aluminum the roof and trunk lid are fully gutted steel 85 regal. the nose was a performance bodies 97 regal this year a friend of mine that sells monte ss parts gave me 3 87 ss stock noses that were cracked a little.every fall i buy 2 sheets of aluminum at a cost of 60 each for painted and a box of rivits.i can cut all new panels and new ground fx and still have aluminum left over for interior filler panels. because of the way the body is when you get hit usually the damage stays on the bottom part of the panel i'm on my 3rd season for upper fenders and doors. the hood and trunk lid are also 3 years old and still look like new. the only steel that has had to be replaced was the roof and upper rear because my original roof was rotted and after 2 seasons it was falling apart. i usually have to pull the panels off 1/2 way through the season and striagten them out but seeing as they start out flat all i do is lay them on the drive way and back over them a few times. this is the cheapest and lightest way i've found to do the bodys and i really never have to go to the junkyard because we occassionaly pick up a car for parts and save the panels. i've got a rust free monte body here that i've had for 2 years and never needed it.by the way if any of you guys are evr in the fulton area this summer stop by the track look for the #24 and enjoy a beer on the old man.lol


robhbk24
Member
posted February 24, 2004 02:14 PM
we line the new body up with the pinstriping you just cut the panels a little longer. and i'm to cheap too buy and air riviter or shears so i do the whole thing with my trusty craftsmen hand riviter and tinsnips i use the back deck on the house to do all of my bends


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