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Mikey14
Member
posted December 27, 2003 10:41 PM
Currently have a 3 speed sag with 2nd removed. Considering running a glide with a hollowed converter. Looking for opinions on this choice. Are the glides better? I get tired of welding ears on my sags! This is for a factory stock BTW.


left turn
Member
posted December 27, 2003 11:10 PM
personally i would stick with the 3 speed if you break an ear you can replace the unit for under 100 bucks try to do that with a glide and your look'n at a few hundy. after 6 glides in 3 years in our mod will never run one again


Mikey14
Member
posted December 28, 2003 08:55 AM
I don't think I'll get rid of the sag, replacing the case isnt that big of a deal but they do crack often. Ive got several cases with the ears nickle welded on them. Besides it has second removed to lighten it and the going price in this area for one of these is a bit steep so it has value at least for now. Most of the guys around here are running the sags but I hear everyone on here talking about running the glides with a dummy converter.

I did a search on glides and to be honest I didn't really get an answer. It seemed about even. Glides over others but the consistant thing was everyone compared a glide to other trannies. I mean I found questions regarding a glide vs 350, 400, sag, muncie 700 and even 250's. I guess if its being considered against the rest of these I might consider it too.

I won't be running this in a mod, just a factory stock so my hp isn't anywhere near yours racer17j. Do you think that may be a factor? Our track is a big 1/2 mile that you pretty much leave the car in high gear all the time except to get the car moving.

If I get a TCI glide with a dummy converter do you think it'll hold up?

Thanks guys for the responses.

juni
Member
posted December 28, 2003 10:11 AM
the ones we lost were on just a claimer 383 and turning under 7000 so it wasn't from abuse think they just have to many things that can go wrong with them


Mikey14
Member
posted December 28, 2003 12:51 PM
Regarding the ears, I've broken two but almost everyone I race with complains about the weak cases on the sags. Its common to see the cases cracked on one ear or the other but you may be right about it being because of the method used to mount it. I would think that since other tranny's like muncies dont seem to have this problem though the sags may not be as strong. Maybe they are just strong enough but if you are off or stress it out when you mount up it weakens them.

The tranny I have in now hasn't broken an ear yet but its my third one. We broke two in a metric last year. We do have to run a stock clutch on manuals. If the rotating weight is about the same then I'll probably continue using the sags. One shop here locally backs theirs pretty good and usually replaces them if they break without much hassle. I was basicly questioning if I'd be able to gain any extra power if I switched out the tranny.

racer17j
Member
posted December 28, 2003 01:30 PM
are you running solid motor and tranny mounts that might cause the breaking


dirtrace
unregistered
posted December 28, 2003 04:31 PM           
mikey 14, I see your not too far from me, if you want some saginaws I have 3 good stock ones all have been used once in a pavement car then pulled. I also have a speedway light weight one, it has a cracked ear, but not broke of yet, so welding would be a good option on it or change it to a diff case.



Mikey14
Member
posted December 29, 2003 08:42 PM
Imagine that it has a broken ear, go figure! Just kidding, I've got one currently that has 2nd removed and is a good tranny, I was really just looking at the glide to see if it would help me shave a couple of tenths off of lap times.

Sounds like it would be money well spent other places.

dirtrace
unregistered
posted December 29, 2003 09:41 PM           
I bought it that way, and was going to go that route now I have a muncie. And dont want the saginaws.

400 bucks takes all 4, the lw has 2nd and reverse lightened and first is gone.

Jeff

speedyd1
Member
posted January 04, 2004 04:26 PM
I have been involved with dirt cars that run saginaws for 6 years and have never had one break the ears off. Solid mounted.