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race it
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posted December 23, 2003 05:33 PM
That's because the top trailing arms are made to work against each other so the rear end wont slop side to side but if they where strait like the bottom's and not angled the rear end would move side to side and the panhard bar is what stops this from happing.


race it
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posted December 24, 2003 08:18 PM
It may help if you tell us what your track rules are and what you can move, change, can or can't run. If you can move the mounting point's id suggest running it like a late model. IM not so sure that running a panhard bar with a stock set up would work but you never know it may be a big risk and bind up the car. besdies the rear end wont move as much as a latemode l rearend even with the rubbers the trailing arms will still stop if from slopping around big time

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Eljojo
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posted December 25, 2003 05:33 AM
I've tried your set up and believe me--it will NOT work. You will have to remove the bushings from the trailing arm on the drivers side upper. That will let therear end move laterally while moving up and down.
The panhard bar will not push down the right rear tire either. The angle of the panhard affects the roll center in the rear. You would want to do a forum search for more information on this.
When you've comleted your information search, drop me an e-mail and I'll talk particulars witcha.
JoJo


racerguy500
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posted December 26, 2003 08:46 PM
Given the original 4 link set up, a panhard bar will make it bind big time. With a panhard bar as the suspension travels down the effective length of the arm gets longer pushing the frame outward as it does. With all the other mounts being somewhat stationary it stiffens the rear end quite a bit and won't let it roll as it should. Not to mention each corner is different depending on how you hit it, how hard, etc. So to answer your question, no, it won't help unless you have something else WAY off on setup and this is your crutch.


udecide66
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posted December 31, 2003 11:36 AM
We mounted a panhard bar on our GM metric car with a stock four link set up and it worked wonders for right rear side bite, My brother could go through the corners alot faster but had to be careful with the throttle on corner exit, made the car loose coming out. We mounted it with an axle clamp on the right side of rear end about 2 inches behind axle centerline and about 6 inches above axle centerline then mounted to left side frame, kept it about 3 inches different in mounting heights, we used 3/4 heim ends and 1 inch pipe with 1/4 inch sidewall.
We would burn up a right rear tire in one night.


odb93
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posted December 31, 2003 01:57 PM
According to Steve Smith, you should remove the trailing arm on the drivers side if you are going to run a panhard on a metric.


zeroracing
Member
posted December 31, 2003 02:02 PM
you would have to at least remove one side of the top links, and it would work better if you could move them so you just had one straight. but racerguy500 is right there is no way you can put a panhard bar on it and use stock upper and lower control arms. it will bind up.
and for udecide66 "We would burn up a right rear tire in one night" a street stock should not do this, to be as fast as you can your back tires should have the same temps roughly, not one burnt off and the other mild. the hot tire says your spinnning it to much, and so does the loose on exit that says your spinning your tires way to much. there is something wrong somewhere else in the car, so lookeverything over well.
if you fix that then your car will get alot faster, and you will turn less rpms.