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Author Topic:   Curious, what's everyone use for towing?
Raz_900
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posted November 18, 2003 12:42 PM
Just curious, what's everyone use getting to the track? Around here, it's pretty hilling (not mountain like, but several hundred foot changes aren't uncommon). For the past 3 years, we've used either a 2001 F250 HD with a V10 auto or 1991 F350 14' box truck with a rebuilt 460 auto. We have both an open trailer and a 26' enclosed. The enclosed is a bit tough on the box truck (it has about 3000 lbs of stuff in the box.) but it pulls the open easy with a 3000lb car on it. The F250 works well too, but the V10 gets worse mileage than the 460.

For next year, I just bought a '99 F150 ext. cab short bed 4x4 with a 5.4 auto and factory tow package. The 5.4 adds 4 wheel abs and rear discs, so I think I'll be ok. I bought a F150 'cause my g/f will drive it occasionally and I wanted a vehichle that could be used as a daily driver if needed. A F350 dually diesel 4 door long bed would be ideal, but the compromise of driving an ocean liner day to day isn't worth it. I'm going to have a new open trailer with a 4' or 6' box in front and possible add a weight distributing hitch if it sways too much. It already has a Class IV receiver, so I think it might be ok as is.

Any comments/experiences?

Tks, Steve

wizzard
Member
posted November 18, 2003 12:58 PM
I pull with a 88 chevy suburban,just a 350 with overdrive,no problems due to the golden rule i always adhere to...DON'T PULL IN OVERDRIVE lol


zeroracing
Member
posted November 18, 2003 03:34 PM
Hey Jason, when did you get the toterhome?? What did you do with your old trailer?? I'm kinda looking for one but can't afford one right now anyways. LOL

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66jj
Member
posted November 18, 2003 03:52 PM
93 2 wd f350 crew cab dually 460 auto. 6 mpg @65 mph..

this truck replaced my 76 2wd crew cab dually chevy that got 4-6 mpg with a built 454, custom paint, newer 82 style nose hood etc..

Both trucks had a vibration. ford is eating the front tires like it has bad shocks or something, nothing seems bad,put new shocks on,checked ball joints, tie rods, had it aligned, still vibrates , really bad at 75-80 mph.

Chevy couldt tow above 60-65 so I think Im doing better.

redneck racing
Member
posted November 18, 2003 06:17 PM
Have a 98 Ford f-250 super cab 4x4 with the 5.4 Triton . I use a K&N air filter on it. The trailer I built is 18 foot long and has a 6ft deck open in the middle (like the one Sleepy built for CT) tire rack and winch. Eddie


racer17j
Member
posted November 18, 2003 06:25 PM
i have my old rusty 78 3/4 ton chev camper special i'm like wiz the trailer stays on her all year long and it only goes the 8 miles to the track and back think i'm gonna hit a dot aution this spings and get one of those cool orange trucks lol


Eljojo
Member
posted November 18, 2003 06:46 PM
I've pulled my open trailer with tool box and tire rack, loaded with 3400# street stock, all over the Southeastern US with an 89 Econoline with a rear leaf added and a 300 in line six. Yes, it has trailer brakes!
80mph on flat ground ----Clinch Mtn gets it to 35! Oh yeah every hundred miles I have to put in 10 gals of gas. Go figure...


cobb
Member
posted November 18, 2003 06:58 PM
we've got a73 f350 with a ramp body on.i love not having to pull a trailer when the pits are muddy


M1
Member
posted November 18, 2003 07:13 PM
I use a 1987 ford with a 300 six cylinder. I never tow any farther then 40 miles with it, but it does 70mph the whole way there NP. I got it for free two years ago, and sure would like to upgrade to something better. But racing makes me so poor, I cant

HEHE


te33
Member
posted November 18, 2003 08:37 PM
We used a '94 F150 4x4 with the automatic all year and pulled those hills without a problem, Even with a trailer that weighs about as much as the car does, and the 8-foot bed loaded up.


Raz_900
Member
posted November 19, 2003 09:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by te33:
02 f 150 super cab,5.4l,towing package,18ft. trailer,3400lbs,car .i've caught my self running 85-90mph on i95,the darn truck is just soooo smooth.at 75 with od off,15 mpg.towed last year with a 02 excursion with a power stroke,best tow rig ever.got awesome fuel mileage.

That sounds just about lilke what I have and the trailer/car is pretty close. And ya.. the truck is really smooth isn't it? So with OD off it still gets decent mileage huh? With the 3.73's and 17" tires, it's around 2500-2700 at highway speeds (60-70). Works out perfect since torque peak is 2600 I believe.

I'd thought about buying an old truck and just leaving it with the trailer on it all the time. But, with a '71 Mustang, 305HP 13sec '91 Thunderbird SC, '95 Cougar and 3 motorcycles already taking up space, it just isn't feasible. I learned to drive with a '75 F150 2wd and a 390. I'd love to get one and make it nice for a tow vehicle, but I'm with the 'racing makes me poor' group. All the other 'toys' were bought and paid for before I got into racing.

dirt poor racing
Member
posted November 19, 2003 10:36 AM
we pull a 23 foot goose kneck behind a 2000 f250 no problem. my partner won't let me pull the 80 T-Bird behind a chevy....yet..


backwoodsracer
Member
posted November 19, 2003 11:45 AM
2002 Dodge Quadcap 4X4. 360 not the hemi.

Travel about 45 miles oneway to the track avg. 10 mile to the gallon. Nice truck but likes gas. Oh yeah, it is a company truck. I could not afford a tire on this thing if it was mine.

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RACER19S
Member
posted November 19, 2003 12:53 PM
I tow with a 03 Ford F-150, 20 foot open trailor with 4 ft of tool box and tire rack, 3000# race car. I can go as fast or slow as possible and the gas milage hardly changes, more than enough power with the 5.4. I've also towed with a friends 03 Chev 3/4 with the duramax/allison package and that was the cats a$$. Wish I could afford to go that route.
Nick19


outlawstock17
Member
posted November 19, 2003 02:20 PM
i towed a 3000 lb. racecar, trailer and all the junk you need to support it 115 miles one way with a 4.0 v-6 ford ranger 4x4! it wore me smooth out. towing with a ranger ain't called towing.......it's called "staying in front of the trailer"!

how bad you got it?

dirtracer7
Member
posted November 19, 2003 02:46 PM
I got a 86 dodge 3/4 ton 4x4 thats about seen its day.I use it to haul firewood,pull the car, and hold the grass down under it when its sitting.The motor is tired but it has 4.10 gears so it can still do it.I am hoping to find somethng alittle better next for year.


wizzard
Member
posted November 19, 2003 04:50 PM
not me wizzard, i'm a ford guy to the core.


robhbk24
Member
posted November 19, 2003 05:23 PM
99 GMC Z-71. 5.3 liter. Drive it like you're mad at the world and it pulls good. 13mpg empty. 12.5 mpg loaded. I miss my old 350.


Whitelightning
Member
posted November 19, 2003 07:11 PM
1991 Chevrolet Silverado Step-Side, It does have a built motor but stock trans and rear end and it pulls 3500 pound pure stock and all the tires and tools and spares on a nice big trailer with veiw stand and tire racks Pulls just as fast of slow as you could ever want to go. For the most part around here everyone thats does pull with a Ford has to have the big f250 or 350(overkill) and never the f150 maybe lack of power hehehehehehe


Raz_900
Member
posted November 20, 2003 12:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wizzard:
hmm 10 fords so far i thought ya'll were chevy guys!!!

What's the famous line?

"Drive Fords Race Chevys"

I think most people shy away from towing with an F150 'cause the 4.2 V6 and older 4.6 V8's are pretty weak. The 97-2000 4.6's only make like 220hp and 265 ft-lbs. Not exactly ideal for a tow rig. The later 4.6's were rated at 230hp and 290 ft-lbs I believe. The 5.4's however ('99 up) were rated at 260HP and 350 ft-lbs@2600rpm. The 97-98 5.4's were 235hp and 335 ft-lbs.

But most F150s were sold with the smaller motors, it was quite difficult for me to find a 4x4 ext. cab with a 5.4 for under $15k regardless of the year. I drove 350 miles to buy the one I did.

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jasonsr
Member
posted November 20, 2003 01:59 PM
85 GMC Crew Cab, 454 BB pulls a Street Stock, tires, and equipment, plus 6 people to the track. I LOVE THIS TRUCK


wrenchturner10
Member
posted November 20, 2003 05:45 PM
I use my wifes '96 Tahoe. We cruise to the track in leather with the ac going full blast. With some spring work in the back these make pretty good tow rigs.


prarielabs
Member
posted November 20, 2003 08:54 PM
I use my 01 chevy crew cab HD 4x4. Its got the 8.l liter V-8, allison trans. It has great power and gets good fuel mileage.

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te33
Member
posted November 21, 2003 04:57 PM
i've got a 01 gmc 3/4 ton crew cab with the 8.1 and the allison. pulls WAY better than my 00 5.3 1/2 ton gmc. it gets around 8-9 mpg loaded and 11-12 unloaded. my trailer all loaded runs about 7000 lbs.

luke

gould
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posted November 22, 2003 10:16 PM
1971 chevy 3/4 ton, gas hog!!!!

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EVANSRACING24E
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posted November 24, 2003 10:45 PM
i usea 94 s10 4x4 with the 4.3 v-6 pulling a 3200 lbs car and fully loaded bed. runs about 65-70 no problem. slowing down sometimes is the problem.


madmodshoe
Member
posted November 25, 2003 09:55 PM
77 chevy crew cab dually w/ built 454 tuned holley carb. Tows open or enclosed. Never seen a gas station it did not like!


eborcim
Member
posted November 25, 2003 11:40 PM
we've just started hauling our 30ft beaver tail trailer/dirt late model with a '97 GMC 2500 w/vortec 350. it is nearly ideal. but we are looking around to try and find either a 3 door or 4 door, 2wd, with a short bed. when we find one that is in reasonable condition and fairly priced, we'll ship it out here to australia.


Okie11m
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posted November 26, 2003 05:53 AM
D-MAX KICKS **** !!!


JOHN NIP
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posted November 26, 2003 11:45 AM
I have a 1984 ford F250 6.9 deisel king cab dual tanks if anyone needs something to haul with it will pull almost anything 16mpg pulling a 24ft enclosed trailer i dont need it anymore i got a 2003 ford f350 dually i will take 1500.00 you pick up in alabama.

Truck runs great and still looks good i wouldnt be scaried to drive it anywere.

M1
Member
posted November 26, 2003 12:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wizzard:
hmm 10 fords so far i thought ya'll were chevy guys!!!

Please note.....I got my truck FOR FREE two years ago. Its no jem, but it pulls like a hippo on crack! I always joke with my friends, and my wife, when it does die, on the way home from the track, Im gonna unload the car, and come back for the trailer later. Dont think I would drive my racecar home? Done it!

crazy8888
Member
posted November 26, 2003 04:56 PM
You guys all use stuff thats too new for me. In '91 we pulled my brothers pure stock '66 Dodge Coronet with a '49 Dodge pickup and a car tote, with the box loaded. 95 horsepower 218 ci flathead 6. Sixty miles an hour down the interstate.


wermm
Member
posted November 26, 2003 08:59 PM
I got my eye on a '49 Ford f3. If I get this one it will make 4 '49-'50 Ford trucks


BIGDADDYBOZ
Member
posted November 26, 2003 10:01 PM
This year my car was Hauled with my 81 Chevy Shortbox Stepside with 7 inches of lift and 35 inch Tires, also pulled with my 89 Chevy long box 4wd and Just added for next season a 77 Chevy Step Van.


dirtracer50
Member
posted November 26, 2003 10:37 PM
I've got an 84 GMC half ton 4x4 thats gotten mileage as bad as 4mpg going over the pass but always gets there. My buddy tows the car every once in a while with his 02 chevy with the 496 and allison. I'm now trying to save all my pennys I figure by about 2030 I'll be able to afford one.


Alan Rat
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posted November 27, 2003 06:31 PM
I pull a 18 ft open trailer w/3200 LLM, with a 2002 super crew Larat,5.4,w/k&n and pipe,duals.17 mpg @ 75 mph. Hills,what hills?Air and Hanks tunes get 6 of us to and from the track in style.


Raz_900
Member
posted December 01, 2003 01:46 PM
It's strange seeing all the variety out there. It's not that I bought this '99 soley for towing the car, that was just why it's a 5.4 and not a 4.6 or V6. I could have stuck with my Bronco ('87 351w) but it's old and I wanted something newer.

Driving a 305 HP (at the wheels... like 360 at the motor and 400 ft-lbs at the wheels too) Thunderbird in the PA snow is not fun. Actually it's a whole lot of fun, you just don't get far. Snow tires, sand, tires spinning at 70mph to go 20mph sideways... screw that! The trucks really a backup daily driver to the cars, snow vehicle and a tow vehicle 3rd.

bigcityracer
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posted December 01, 2003 06:19 PM
97 Dodge Maxi Van 2400lbs car 75mph 90 miles each way. 12 to 14 MPG. You just have to love racing. Or like me just STUPID!