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jas
Member
posted October 10, 2003 08:05 PM
how to build wedge into a impala frame while instaling a rool cage please help


66jj
Member
posted October 10, 2003 08:17 PM
jack up the lf 2 inches hold down the rest of the corner.



ssaamm
Member
posted October 13, 2003 08:17 PM
Is this something that is recommended? What if you do it this way then find out you need the opposite effect? Can you adjust wedge else where to make up for doing this? and if so, will it still not be as good because of doing this?


66jj
Member
posted October 13, 2003 10:15 PM
I would never ever do it....

Its as backwoods as you can get in my opinion.

you could just put some shims,spacers under the rf, left rear to do the same thing. wheel spacers fit just about perfectly!!!

I only aswered because it seemed nobody was going to.

Jeff

outlawstock17
Member
posted October 14, 2003 07:43 AM
i agree with 66jj. build the car flat and square and make your adjustments to the suspension.


ssaamm
Member
posted October 14, 2003 08:10 AM
thats kind of what I figured, thanks guys...


dirtrace54
Member
posted October 15, 2003 06:03 PM
Sleepy Gomez has very good ideas in this area. But true this should only be done if spacers and shims cannot be used in the springs.


66jj
Member
posted October 15, 2003 07:55 PM
If your talking about that article in circle track where sleepy used a jack and stood on the other corners of the frame to precisely wedge it. then had to use a spacer for the cage to fit on the right side because they built the cage first. oh yeah and they rolled the cage around on the floor to weld it up and cut the roof off cus thats the only way.

Bet that car came out nice and square!

yeah dat there is some durn greet idears ...

wil it werk on my traktor??

SLEEPY GOMEZ
Member
posted October 15, 2003 09:32 PM
Yeah and that car has been winning races too. Seriously, the twist was built in because of local rules that did not allow weight jacks, shims or spacers. They even had a rule the two springs at each end of the car had to be the same height. I have seen tech make them pull the springs an measure them. Building in a twist is a last resort when rules stop everythig else. It does work but you have to guess at how much. And the rules then said no bars through the fire wall. Talk about a flimsy front end. If rules allow adjustments, then build the car square and level. Build the car as torsionally stiff as possible. Your adjustments will be more effective. SLEEPY


M1
Member
posted October 15, 2003 11:14 PM
For Instance on rules not allowing ANYTHING. We run "purestocks" and are not even allowed to weld the rear end. Ever tried to race a car on a circle track with an open rearend? Wedging is a must then!


rico 08
Member
posted October 16, 2003 03:33 PM
M1 i once had a rearend that was run almost out of rear grease and it almost locked up,i just put some lube in and went and it seemed ok but it would work similar to a posi,so you may be able to do this to a rear end,then change the gears and bearings and use the same side gears and spiders and have a legal semi positive traction rearend.Aren't rules fun.


M1
Member
posted October 17, 2003 12:16 AM
I know squat about rearends, but I THINK that when something like that happens, isnt it the pin that goes through the spiders that get the abuse? Some guys were claiming that they put washers in the rearend somewhere to make it as posi like as possible. Is this true? Any tips, secrets or am I nuts?

Maybe I should start a new thread. Just hope none of the competition reads this board......lmao

ruggs66
Member
posted October 17, 2003 10:18 AM
if you take the pin out, then take out the axle clips, then the spider gears, you will find a shim or washer behind the the side gears "the gears the axles run through" you can try to stick the thickest washer you can fit in there to try to wedge the spider gears together but that wouldn't work as well as welding the spider gears.


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