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jmfosnaught
Member
posted September 17, 2003 09:54 PM
I race street stocks in western pa. i have a motor that is consistant with eveyone else. i've been working all year trying to get my first win. i think i've done everything possible to make my car the best it can be.
- cut weight
- car handles great, i know what to change to make it work from heat to feature
-i'm running the right gears
- i think i'm getting good forward bite
- i've extended might uppertrailing arm tabs to increase forward bite
- i have a decent pinion angle
- good caster and camber
- good weight percentages

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I CAN DO TO GET TO VICTORY LANE. I THINK I'VE TRIED IT ALL BUT I DONT KNOW. PLEASE HELP. POST ALL IDEAS, I'LL TRY ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.


Thank you
Jason


racer17j
Member
posted September 17, 2003 10:04 PM
is the car green by any chance lol j/k you need a little luck i'm the same way


wizzard
Member
posted September 17, 2003 10:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wizzard:
if ya got the car setup rite then the only thing you'll probably need is a little more seat time to get it all down pat

Been racing for 7 years



dirtracer7
Member
posted September 18, 2003 07:11 AM
Like 17j said you must be needing that luck thing.I've got 8 top 5s this year 2 2nds and both times the winner was caught cheating and walked away with the money.I know what you feel like.


powerglides
Member
posted September 18, 2003 08:54 AM
I really dont think it has anything to do with me. Like i said, I've been racing for 7 years. I have hundreds of features under my belt, thousands and thousands of laps. Not only have I run my home track every week (since I began racing) but I have been to every track from western pa to central pa. The other thing is I've been helping in the pits since I was 12 (25 now). Thats a lot of knowledge. I just cant seem to catch a good break I guess. We have 12 cars that can win on any given night and when your car is at its best theres always someone just a tick better. i just dont know how they are doing it


speedyd1
Member
posted September 18, 2003 03:14 PM
yeah, i usually do try something new every week. i just cant seem to figure out what those other guys are doing to beat me. oh well, i'll keep trying. thanks for the words of advice.


rico 08
Member
posted September 18, 2003 05:47 PM
I was around racing since i was 12 and was talked into building a car at 22,i won the biggest race of the year my first year and some smaller features,needless to say the next year the rookies came out of the woodwork,they were very disappointed when they realized it's not that easy,i just had a ten year headstart on everyone.One thing i can say is beware of the old standards you may be using now,i've seen many guys use a bad idea and never change even when shown that it's no good.Double check everything here on the dirt forum.


ryan
Member
posted September 18, 2003 09:04 PM
Spend more money usually works around here.


hobby62
Member
posted September 18, 2003 09:49 PM
most of the time they get me coming off, but i get them going in, i think that has a lot to do with gear choice. the car seems to still be a little tight going in. it rolls over nice in the center and comes off great. i wish i could get in just a little better.


racer17j
Member
posted September 21, 2003 02:03 PM
try some stagger in the front and if your gewtting beat coming off and getting them going in i would definatly say put some gear in her


FastEddy
Member
posted September 21, 2003 11:34 PM
Do you have more tire spin than actual acceloration when coming out of the corner. You might try feathering the gas a little if you havent done that.


jmfosnaught
Member
posted September 22, 2003 09:47 AM
have plenty of stagger in the front and i've always been able to control tire spin with the throttle


cd2
Member
posted September 22, 2003 01:04 PM
jmfosnaught You can add a little bite to the L.R.to loosen you a little going in or soften your R.R.spring a little bit. This will help getting off also.Loosening up getting in will help carry more corner speed. A gear change will help a lot from center of corner to flagstand.This is where the race is won not at the end of the straight going in. cd2


cd2
Member
posted September 22, 2003 01:17 PM
jmfosnaught On another post you wanted to know about better bite.what do you have on persentages and spring,shock setup? If you donot want to post on here you can e-mail me at dbroy@bellsouth.net and maybe we can help. cd2


cd2
Member
posted September 22, 2003 02:49 PM
jmfosnaultIf you didn't get my personal reply let me know on here. Will check an see what i did wrong. cd2


dirtrace54
Member
posted September 22, 2003 03:03 PM
One piece of advice i can give is that when the car seems very fast, it probably isn't. Slow is fast, and fast is a waste. The nights i thought my car seemed slow, it was the easiest to drive and i had the best lap times. The nights i thought the car was flying i had to fight other racers all nite long to get the win.

Point two is MONEY

And a last resort have an old veteran who is cosistent and known as a great driver take your car for a spin. He mite be able to give you some pointers.

pandr
Member
posted September 22, 2003 03:16 PM
thanks for the advice pandr. everyone at the track keeps telling me that too. they have said the first one is the hardest. once you get the first one, they come a little easier.

[This message has been edited by jmfosnaught (edited September 22, 2003).]

S@Bracing
Member
posted September 23, 2003 02:51 AM
Try getting off the gass sooner, don't race them into the corner. Remember its the first one out of the corner that counts not the first one in. You will think I am crazy but try it for one race. You maybe suprized. I was the first time I tried it. it felt like I was crawling into the corner but I was able to finally get off the corner as good or better than everyone.(except when I made dumb mistakes...oops)


pandr
Member
posted September 23, 2003 09:22 PM
hey jmfosnaught, have you checked your rear suspension to make sure there is no bind.? just an after thought....


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