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Big Bear
Member
posted July 16, 2003 10:27 AM
OK guys
gotta a basic question here on toe out adjustment.When setting up the toe lets say for the case of argument 1/4". Is the entire measurement from one tire or is the toe split between the 2 tires i.e., 1/8" left and 1/8" right. In other words does the LF tire need to be parallel with the frame rails and the RF tire absorb all the toe out measurement. I know this is a very basic question but I'm just a beginner here and am still learning.Any insight and clarification as always will be greatfully and humbly accepted.

Thanks
Big Bear


dirtbuster
Member
posted July 16, 2003 10:55 AM
Here is what i do. Center up the drag link in the cross member. Whether by centereing the steering sector or you can check the pitman arms, they should be straight back when teh drag link is centered, or you can visually center the drag link between the 2 lower a frame bolts. Then align the LF tire with the LR, I have done this by eyeballing it and also running a string line. Then set your toe at the RF wheel.


oba51
Member
posted July 16, 2003 05:31 PM
The answer to your question is that when people say 1/4" of toe, it means the total toe of the wheels, so yes, 1/8" left and 1/8" right is 1/4" total toe. But 1/4" left and 0 right is ALSO 1/4" total toe. If you set all of your toe on one wheel, in effect, you're only moving the center point of the steering wheel. When you start to roll forward, the car will 'center' itself and the steering wheel will move accordingly.

If I were to put all of the toe into one side of one of my customer's cars, they would not even get to the end of my short driveway. They'd be back in wanting their steering wheel 'straightened out'.

There may be a desired reason for that on a race car, I'm not sure. I'm not saying one way is right or wrong. For the record, I set mine up equally on both sides. Anyway, it's an easily made adjustment that you could even try it both ways to see which way works best for you. Hope that answered your question.


c21
Member
posted July 17, 2003 11:13 AM
c21
I guess I should clarify my question. I'm looking for the Initial Toe setup. How would you prefer to set this initially? split between the tires or all on one or the other? maybe I'm not understanding your answer either.

As for you other guys Thanks and keep the opinions coming

Big Bear


dirtracer7
Member
posted July 20, 2003 12:56 AM
Don't know if its right or wrong but I adjust the right side, 3/16 inch out.


66jj
Member
posted July 20, 2003 11:13 AM
the right side is usually higher and easier to work on.

jeff

c21
Member
posted July 21, 2003 10:13 AM
if all your asking for is opinions
i set my toe off the left frt .
first square the centre link
set the right frt square with right rear
and set my toe out off the left frt


Big Bear
Member
posted July 22, 2003 10:47 AM
Thanks C21 and every body for your replies, I see there is a difference of opinion between all that is involved. I can see the benefits of C21 and wrenchjjockey's posts. The benefits of the other posts are a little more cloudy. What performance gains or losses are achieved by setting the toe all on one tire or the other. If you can, please post your arguement to back up your theory.
I am not a follow the leader type of racer. I believe in sound theory to back up what I Install in the car.
Please keep your responses in layman terms so this old country boy can better understsnd them
As always thanks for your participation

Big Bear

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c21
Member
posted July 22, 2003 01:00 PM
Since we are talking about a 1/4" (or less) of toe .... which would translate into about 1/16" longer tie-rod assy on one side vs the other (if we were setting it all on one side). ....This is hardley enough to have a significant impact on akermann or Bumpsteer.

However ..... if I were to pick a side to have longer, I would probably pick the right, not left, so that you would be increasing your capacity for countersteering.

my $.02

c21

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