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bryanb30
Member
posted May 26, 2003 12:54 AM
The rear suspension on that car has the best of both worlds rear coils, panhard bar and torque arm....Now what I have a question about is how many of these are stock and in stock location and are they adjustable and what do your rules allow....Let me know what you think....Towman


rico 08
Member
posted May 26, 2003 10:30 AM
Yep it's really lifting the car if it's doing that,i've seen a lift bar type car with the bar on the drivers side do the same thing.


Scoot
Member
posted May 26, 2003 10:08 PM
I'll be running that model camaro next season. Anyone have some basic setups for me to try?

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stevewm
Member
posted May 27, 2003 05:35 PM
I'll be running that model camaro next season. Anyone have some basic setups for me to try?
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Scoot
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Steve Comments.
The 86 camaro does not have no frame under it just a front cross member.I believe the fella raising the tire must have that 86 camaro skin on a metric frame car.

I just skinned my street stock with a 86 camaro skin and the car itself wheel base is not but 105 inches.Our rules have a 108 inch wheel base limit and if that guy is running a 86 camaro the original car he must of built him a frame under it to tie the cage to.My car is a 77 monte carlo front clip with a jig fabricated leaf spring frame,with the 86 camaro skin on it.

Just a thought.
Steve,


bryanb30
Member
posted May 27, 2003 09:36 PM
I would do a little looking first....Most tracks have a lot of GRAY erea when it comes to rules for these cars, depends on how good a backbone your tech man has....Towman


rico 08
Member
posted May 30, 2003 05:19 PM
some local tracks allow them if the struts remain stock.The reason the newer camaro's look tall is that you can't lower them much without major tire rub.


stevewm
Member
posted May 31, 2003 08:05 AM
What kind of frame does the 86 model and up camaro`s do for a frame when they are built because I have looked at them and there is no frame except the cross member under the oil pan?

Thanks Steve.

bryanb30
Member
posted June 02, 2003 12:10 AM
any hobby stock with a good healthy motor can pull the left front tire we used to do it all the time people thought that it was cool and yes it is mostly all with the springs


racer17j
Member
posted August 09, 2003 01:34 AM
my car will do it every now and then won't lift like a mod but it will lift about 5-6 inches i have the tall speedway tru coil springs and have alot of body roll in her running a 200 on the rr


rico 08
Member
posted August 09, 2003 11:12 AM
If it's hooking up good then it will be fast,but if it's just rolling over or twisting then it's probably not going any faster,a four legged dog is always faster than a three legged one.


race it
Member
posted August 10, 2003 01:21 PM
i read a artical a while back about how everybody is doing it and basicly it said they are realy not any faster lap time wise they just get off the corner a little quicker. 3 wheel'n is a touchy set up tho either you hit or you miss and it's not good if you miss


iowa_dirt_track_girl
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posted August 11, 2003 10:41 AM
ok here is one way to look at it it is easie to drive on 8 inches of tire then 6


Raz_900
Member
posted August 11, 2003 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by race it:
can someone tell me a setup that will do this to a metric car. because there is a guy doing this at my track. and they say its all with spring and weight and not moving or altering any bars.


Guy that pits next to me runs a 81 Cutlass. No sway bars, springs are 1400 RF, 1200 LF, 275 LR and 175 RR. It rolls over like mad and the first time I was behind him with this setup I backed off. I thought something had broken!!! Even on our big (.588 mile) track that's dry and slick most of the time it'll just skim or bounce the left front coming off the corners. And he doesn't have a good motor by any stretch of the imagination.


racinrob2003
Member
posted August 25, 2003 11:16 PM
i run a 86 camaro at rt66 in amarillo tx.i have run it all year and have got some things to help you out.the car you tink is illegal. is probably legal.my class is street stock and we run a 358cid stock intake hydrolic cam and lifters.461 d.h heads1.94/1.60.valves.legal at about 400HP.i was lifting the l.f tire all the way around the track a big 3/8's track.thecar was scaled like i would any 3400# metric car.1000,and 1200 front springs.225 200 rear.bilstein struts and rear shocks, and i was running the sway bar.it pushed like a train.so i started to put a stiffer r.f spring to keep the car from rolling so far over ,i whent to a 1200# spring.it help.but was still rollig the trie under.so i done some research and found that loading the torque arm to fast was picking the front left corner up and leting the right side fall over .so i slowed the torque amrs travel and took the sway bar off,and put an 1400#rf spring and a 260#rr spring 56%left weight,49.9% rear and have 300# of rear bite in the car .it is pretty fast in the mud,very fast in the taky,and falls off a littel in the dry.the car needs a 300# rear spring all the way acroos the back too be fast in all track conditions.and a littel more rear %may be 51%to53%.you should fab a sub frame and under sling the rear to realy help this type of car.any thing you do to off set the roll center to the right will help the car to not roll as bad.so you can spring softer in the front so the car is faster in the corner when it is rought. good luck if you need more help drop a line at racinrobb2003@yahoo.com

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OppendikeRacing29
Member
posted August 28, 2003 12:42 PM
raz 900-- how does this car place? Does he normally do pretty good?


Raz_900
Member
posted September 04, 2003 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by OppendikeRacing29:
raz 900-- how does this car place? Does he normally do pretty good?

He's always in the top 10 and occasionally squeaks a top 5 if he gets a good starting spot. He just doesn't have the motor to stay in the top 5 unless he starts there. Unfortunately, I think he has an 'old wive's tale' engine builder that spends his money in the wrong places, but that's just speculation.

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