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way2fast
Member
posted April 04, 2003 05:18 PM
What do you guys think is the best car to build for a street stock????


teamstertom
Member
posted April 04, 2003 06:30 PM
The question about "best" is a question that has many,many answers. But to answer that question can be only answered best by the track rules where ever you may be running.
Myself...I have a deep fondness for 72-77 Monte Carlos. i know they are big heavy boats compared to the metrics,but it is what works "best" fo me.


dreamcatcher
Member
posted April 04, 2003 06:37 PM
i agree, that is what i run and i have won 4 of the five races i have run so far this year, the other race i was running second and had first setup for a pass and blew my motor. the cars are very forgiving and easyer to set up. and im running aganst comaroes, novas, metric cars . it realy depends on what you like and have. the big mote carlo or the big malibu are what i prefer. good luck. street stock c17 bellmead speedway.



way2fast
Member
posted April 04, 2003 08:28 PM
So you think the coilspring 112 inch wheel base cars are the way to go??/


ryan
Member
posted April 04, 2003 08:38 PM
Metric is the way to go around here 78 and up montes


nate 11
Member
posted April 04, 2003 09:10 PM
Nova....


dreamcatcher
Member
posted April 04, 2003 09:30 PM
if you are a rookie then thats the way i would go. like i said they are more forgiving and can take a hit. if you choose a small car then go ask some reputable builders about tires and shocks and springs and offset wheels that he recommends. if you have questions just ask, most people will help. just remember that everyone has a different opinion you just have to find what you are comfortable with.



teamstertom
Member
posted April 04, 2003 09:51 PM
I believe in my big ole boats....those big Monte Carlos are perfect for racing,but father time has caught up with the availability of bone yard parts,so that's where todays metric rides have the advantage.

I am from the old school,and I just can't bring myself around to build a metric car,but I will have to next year. There are alot of metric race races on the market for sale,and parts are all over to keep these cars going for years to come.

If I could have it my way,I would love to build a 56 or 57 Chevy,and have a blast on the dirt...but many tracks don't allow those body styles any more.

The next big battle for the "best car" to build will be "which is best...coil or springs?"......

redneck racing
Member
posted April 05, 2003 09:30 AM
Im with Nate on this one. Im partial to the Nova. Ive got a 73 and am in the process of building a 77. My buddy is also building a new car his is a metric, he told me I was making a mistake with the Nova because everybody out here are building Montes and Malibus. The reasons for my choice are the Nova can easily be turned into a full frame car,I think its lighter than the metrics and i think leaf spring cars are easier to set up than coil spring cars. The metrics out here are more latemodels with there suspensions and cage set back than they are streetstocks. I personally dont have the money to buy all that fancy stuff for my suspension system in the rear.Although i can say this, a couple of years ago we had a driver win the championship with a 71 duster, Nascar no less, he beat these fancy metrics everytime out and this was on asphalt. This was a leaf spring car. It can be done, Ive also done it on the dirt my first saeson. Both coils and leafs have there advantages and disadvantages, I do think its easier to get parts for these new metrics than my Nova. But we are in the process of building front fenders and hood for this and the prospects are looking good so i see some parts to be no problem. Eddie


racer17j
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posted April 05, 2003 08:04 PM
depends on your rules and track here we run on 1/2 miles with little 360 ci 9:1 motors so you need a light car we had a couple older monte's and malibu's but they are pretty much out to lunch a nova is a good alround car but not for a rookie if you have somebody to help you set it up would be a good choice if not i wouldn't recomend it your best bet would be metric if your rules alow a 108 wheel base car light ez to tune and access to parts i know i would have to hunt for a long time to find parts for an older monte here in iowa


madmodshoe
Member
posted April 06, 2003 06:05 AM
depends on the rules. What is the weight rule? We have gotten metrics to 2430 with full floor pan. The lightest I ever got a nova was 2665 with a full pan. That was even with a 4-door car because they are 40 lbs lighter! It takes a lot of steel to make a rigid chassis on a nova. If you are allowed weght jacks and a panhard bar then the metric is the way to go. If you have to run completey stock, Then the odds on favorite is the nova.


Eljojo
Member
posted April 06, 2003 12:50 PM
I have owned both Nova's and Metrics, and KNOW the drawbacks of each. This season we rolled a 78 Camaro out of the shop and it is, by far, the best of the bunch. The big drawback is written in the rulebook. If you are allowed to run the stock snout and jig up the rear you'd better take a good look at the Camaro. If rules disallow tube rear sections, one bassackwards trip to the wall will finish the sub framed cars. Good luck-whatever you choose!


c21
Member
posted April 07, 2003 11:21 AM
camro or nova 74-81 works great!


dreamcatcher
Member
posted April 11, 2003 04:35 PM
it realy depends on what you prefer. i like the big cars. i have won 5 of 7 races, one blew my motor running 2nd ready to make a pass and the other i was to sick to show. and i have won 6 of 7 heat races. all against camaros, novas and metric cars. no matter what you decide on talk to other drivers at your track and get as much info as you can. as far as adjustments , make them small and one at a time and write down every thing you do so you can keep a record of your progress. study the track for changing track conditions and set the car up accordingly. good luck and always remember to have fun and respect other drivers opinions, street stock c17 charlie norris



rico 08
Member
posted April 11, 2003 05:00 PM
c21 is right a guy ran one(3rd gen camaro) around here and did nothing last year but this year he put in a big motor and man he is fast now,he really just drives around the top of the track and never slides the car a bit,on a dry track he checks out.Anyone got one they would trade for an older one?[IMG]


towmandan
Member
posted April 11, 2003 05:25 PM
Ive ran against 3rd gen camaros for the last 5yrs some with old model stubs under the front the little rear end and factory torque arm is really weak. But in the right hands there like anything some are bad fast.....towman


odb93
Member
posted April 12, 2003 07:27 AM
been reading this post with interest.
I have an 87 chev caprice ex cop car.
Want to build it into a C-bomber. But I am not sure about the four doors. Was thinking about cutting it down to too the track minimum wheelbase which is 107".
As a beginner should I leave it four doors or shorten her down to two doors.

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dirtrace54
Member
posted April 13, 2003 12:38 AM
The longer wheel base cars ar sooo forgiving. I would live it the way it is. I am toying with a 96 caprice squad car. Nice thing about this car is that our cruiser/stocker class only allows chevy to chevy and ford to ford for rear end and stock style brakes for the housing. This 96 has 4 wheel disc brakes. Through this forum I have found that rear end to be well needed. It bends the runs, but still is factory and slides in. Try it the way it is and see if you like it


neil rucker
Member
posted April 14, 2003 09:49 PM
camaros and novas work good here. the nova has better weight percentages (asuming you run 68 thru 74 rear steer clip) the front steer clip is MASSIVE (75 thru 79) the camaro a-arms, spindles, etc will interchange with nova, but the steering and suspension geometry is NOT the same between nova and camaro. the rear steer is slow reacting compared to the front steer. we ran a 72 nova with 76 camaro clip (it will work) this was a good setup.


towmandan
Member
posted April 14, 2003 09:57 PM
Will that camaro stub bolt up to the original holes on the nova if so thats good to know please fill me in on that one.


redneck racing
Member
posted April 14, 2003 11:34 PM
Have a 78 Camaro stub under my 73 Nova, the front clips are the same thickness only difference now is that the rear steer is now a front steer. Eddie


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