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Author Topic:   front springs
Big Dawg
Member
posted February 08, 2003 09:40 AM
I was wondering if any one has switched the front spings put heavier one on left front,to get more body roll?


redneck bubbas racing
Member
posted February 08, 2003 11:29 AM
I understand that it is common on asphalt but I've never seen anyone do it on dirt.


c21
Member
posted February 10, 2003 12:19 PM
loose on entry and tight off sounds good to me!


iowa_dirt_track_girl
Member
posted March 01, 2003 04:25 PM
[ i would never want to be loose in tight off if you are tight in then you can run it in a lot harder what springs are you running now bigdawg?


hoganhomer
Member
posted March 04, 2003 01:27 AM
c21,

I understand a softer rf would make the car looser on entry and through the center by unloading the lr, but why would it make it tighter off? Is it b/c the weight gets to the lr faster under acceleration? If so, I'm confused b/c I thought the shock controlled that. Does the smaller spring rate not have the same effect as less front stagger, when it comes to getting of the corner?
Also, changing the rr and rf proportionaly what does that do?

Thanks for the help.

c21
Member
posted March 04, 2003 10:12 AM
Thats why i run a 1000 lb spring rf and 800 lf 175 rr 200lr Very good info
One question? I have heard that a newer S10 spindle is 1/2 lower would that be good on the right front to raise the car and load the left rear or lf and load right rear?
Them spring rates are on a 3000 lb car

What Would a tie down shock do the the car on the left rear (make it loose on entry?)

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hoganhomer
Member
posted March 05, 2003 01:05 AM
Thanks


c21
Member
posted March 05, 2003 10:51 AM
Our tracks get very dry slick around here and i run a lot deeper get then everyone else so yes i do like a very tight car in so i can use the gear and brakes on exit
The reason for the soft right front too is because it loads the lr quicker thats why i was wondering on the tie down shock for the left rear because of the soft springs i wonder if it will load the lr to quick and make it push to the wall on exit
The pin placemen on the drop spindles it to low all i can find is a two inch drop thats why i thought the s10 spindle would be perfect (maybe for the rf because it would lower ther car on the left frontmaking it better on entry
What is your opion on this?


c21
Member
posted March 05, 2003 01:17 PM
Ya your right drop spindles are a raised pin so i was thinking that a lower frame on the left front would make the car seem tight on entry i dont know if my thinking would be right or not but wouldnt that take weight of of the rr until you got back on the throttle in the middle of the corner maybe iam just chasing my tail here but i am always willing to try new things.


c21
Member
posted March 05, 2003 05:12 PM
I get exactly what your saying you just answered my question now finding what i need is an other question Thank you
Still does anybody know if the pin placement on newer s10 picup truck is lower then metric car if so how much?


iowa_dirt_track_girl
Member
posted March 05, 2003 09:52 PM
Hey c21 i ran into a guy that run a reverse rotated motor in a street stock class he said that he had a few problems get everything to work right but the end result was awsome he said that he couldnt keep the car offf the bottom Think he was from NY
Just thought I would share that


bobaluuu
Member
posted March 05, 2003 10:30 PM
[You do realize a reverse rotation motor would require expensive/extensive rear end
mods too. Me thinks this guy is yankin your chain.


bobaluuu
Member
posted March 05, 2003 10:38 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by iowa_dirt_track_girl:
[B]I get exactly what your saying you just answered my question now finding what i need is an other question Thank you
Still does anybody know if the pin placement on newer s10 picup truck is lower then metric car if so how much? QUOTE
Seems to me this would basically change ride height Which can be done with cups cheaper and easier . Unless you have it as low as your set up will allow and need to go lower
still

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bobaluuu
Member
posted March 05, 2003 10:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by c21:
If you wanted to increase body roll with out upseting the set up too much you would want to change both of the rights proportionatly.

swaping both of the fronts will make the car looser on entry and in the middle and tighter on exit.

c21


If the rr is already lighter than lr would you still change rear as well

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c21
Member
posted March 06, 2003 10:29 AM
How light of springs would you suggest? I run a 1/4 mile semi banked track, I run real good there,and have won races.My car handles good,but I just think it would be faster,if I could get it to roll over more.My shocks are 1050lf,1200rf,250lr,and 200rr,I also run alot of left rear weight in the car.Thanks


c21
Member
posted March 13, 2003 05:00 PM
you can soften your RF (and add cross at the same time to neutralize mid -turn) until your exit is too tight or you run out of RF compression travel.

I probably would start out at a 1000 (you will probably find the rate you like before you get to 800).

c21

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