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car311
Member
posted October 11, 2002 11:54 AM
At my local track, a modified driver normally finished in the middle of the pack.
The very next night he has the front left 2 foot off the ground and beat everybody by a straightaway. He has a 2 link swing arm with a springbar. I started asking questions but all he did was smiled and said it was all in the setup. What did he do to get the hookup? I always thought 4 on the ground was better? What do you guys think?


modman97
Member
posted October 11, 2002 03:27 PM
Alot of people believe that 4 tires on the track is faster. I have raced against guys that were carrying the left front and just looking for a place to crash. (They were terrible and very erratic.) On the other hand, I saw guys like Stoa,Boney, and the Hejna bros. at the Nationals , and they were all about being fast with 3.


car311
Member
posted October 11, 2002 03:30 PM
Id like to try this setup, it is the end of the year, points are done, nothing to loose, ive got a new car on jack stands in my garage, if i plant this one no big loss.


Wauge28
Member
posted October 11, 2002 04:40 PM
Raise your ride heights up atleast 1 inch all the way around the car. Soften the heck out of our RR spring. Stiffen the RF spring. Lower your panard bar on both end and take the angle out of the bar. Increase your cross. Add weight to the rear and up high (top of fuel cell is best).

See the trend here? Get the car to roll over hard!!!

Have fun and if you can turn the car it will be a rocket. Question is "IF" you can turn the car.

andykmod
Member
posted October 12, 2002 12:03 PM
It's all in the bar angles figure out your rearsteer and stand on it. Left front in the air is o.k if it's not more then 10 to 12 inches. HAVE FUN


Wauge28
Member
posted October 12, 2002 10:35 PM
Yes, bar angles will do it on a z-link or 4 bar. With a 3 link, it take more than the L in the top hole and the R in the bottom hole.


dirtslinger76
Member
posted October 13, 2002 03:34 PM
is it possible to make the car to carry the left front with a leaf spring car


Wauge28
Member
posted October 13, 2002 06:33 PM
I've seen a guy in California do it with a stack leaf Pro Chassis. Lots of cross and lots of body roll. Same as with a three link.


andykmod
Member
posted October 13, 2002 07:19 PM
Was it a floated stack leaf with a lift bar???????? It's hard to put alot of cross into a leaf car without tanking on alot of lead or messing up your rf ride height real bad witch tends to make the car real tight entering the corner.It's all in tne angles.
3 link try a short pinion mount panhard bar,
or better yet run a short one on the back of the rear end that way when you pick up the gas and take pinion angle out you get more panhard bar angle.


Wauge28
Member
posted October 13, 2002 09:25 PM
You know, I don't know. I really don't think so but until I saw him (I followed him an entire race at a Washington Nationals) I thought it was nearly impossible for a leaf car to do that. I asked him aftwards and he commented that he had too much bite in the car and the wheel would not stay down. I guess us West Coast guys try to keep all 4 on the ground???? Some swear 3 is better but I beleive in traffic, it is better to have all 4 on the ground. I guess if I knew I was going to be on the pole every night, I might change my mind.


dirtracer14
Member
posted October 13, 2002 10:40 PM
Hey there Mark did i see you got a new car? Did you sell the old one?


outlawstock17
Member
posted October 14, 2002 07:22 AM
i watched a guy leave the field in his wake last weekend at muskogee on 3 wheels. i agree, he started pretty close to the front and and it looked like he needed the whole racetrack to make it work. it took him forever to pass the leader, but once he did, he checked out quickly.


Wauge28
Member
posted October 14, 2002 02:11 PM
Craig, is that you?

Yep, I rolled the Dirt Works a couple weeks ago and she is a throw away. I got a Smiley's and am in the process of swithing it over. I am a bit worried because the Smileys seems like it is a dry track car and you know us west coast guys, heavy tracks and BIG bumps. How about you, did you sell your car yet?

dirtracer14
Member
posted October 14, 2002 08:59 PM
Yeppers its me the guy is supose to bring me some $$$ on my car this week then i will know for sure.... I am looking at a car down your way, was in medford on fri on the way back from Ca. Ya i have found that you have to have a car that can go threw ruts and not get to upset so im looking at going with a 3 link


car311
Member
posted October 21, 2002 03:24 PM
he did it again this weekend, he looks very consistant


spde
Member
posted October 31, 2002 11:10 PM
I ran a 2 link w/ a lift bar and I couldn't keep the the lf down. We ran about 150# of bite 59.5% rear 52.5%left . left 2link in the top and right 2link up one. The car was very tight but you could jump in the gas and it was gone!! I had to work the brakes alot. I have a picture, the left front is off the ground about 18". I never minded the way the car handled but the track guys gave me alot of crap. They wanted me to calm down. I just didin't care. I never had problems passing guys because I could get better runs of the corners. I did have problems when I got of the gas in the middle of the corners. The car would settle and then push up the track. It took a while to learn to stay in the gas and ride the brake harder. g.l. lr spde