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tbird
Member
posted May 16, 2002 06:09 PM
kinda partial to fords only ain't they???????


K9
Member
posted May 16, 2002 11:57 PM
I'm liking this class already!!!!
Lets start a trial run right now. I got a car that fits the bill already!!

K9

racer17j
Member
posted May 17, 2002 01:34 PM
sounds like they are heading in the right direction but not sure how the ford deal is gonna work out it isn't any cheaper to build a ford stubbed car. think they might be dropping the ball on that part i'm willing to bet that there will not be very many of those ford cars build before they are forced too and it will die out when they do atleast in iowa anyway just like the stock cars did after the carb rule when there are alot of track in the area that already run the same rules execpt for the ford frame guess where the guys are going to go my bet they aren't going to build a totally new car when they can still run 50 miles down the road with what they already have


CUSTOMPERFORMANCE
Member
posted May 17, 2002 03:34 PM
the late ford frame is the only one that is still being made. gm no longer makes a full framed car anymore. the late ford ltd/crown vic was built in about 82 or 83 and is still the same frame under my dads 99 crown vic. the gm frames are or would be used up if used for the new and reg class with all the reg mods beings built on them. using the ford frames gives you a long time supply of frames for the new class and buys the reg class time before they end up going to fab frame which i have heard there is already talk of doing.


CUSTOMPERFORMANCE
Member
posted May 17, 2002 03:35 PM
the late ford frame is front steer by the way the older ones were rear steer.


ford5
Member
posted May 17, 2002 05:21 PM
custom is right!! BTW whats up with the powerglide only rule? that is gonna not be very economical for the ford and mopar guys now is it?


mwmod34
Member
posted May 17, 2002 06:12 PM
That isnt the problem I built all of my own jigs to put a glide on my 302 took about 3 hrs after i had the parts that i got from the junk yard for 20 bucks and $50 piece of .250 steel plate there was nothing to it.


CUSTOMPERFORMANCE
Member
posted May 17, 2002 08:45 PM
With all the problems i have had with automatics with or without a torque converter i would rather much run a manual tranny in the new class if i were to run it.Manual trannies are so much more reliable.


CUSTOMPERFORMANCE
Member
posted May 17, 2002 08:50 PM
My idea is it would be in their best interest to alow older reg mods in and any new ones to be built on the ford frame. Allow a auto with torque converter or a mnaual with stock single disc clutch like so many other limited mods have to use. Limit it to 9-1 comp and a 360 cid and a 500cfm 2 barrell. Used pull offs from the mod guys as so many of them have a bunch of usaed tires.
This way ti would help get rid of used chassis behind many of those back yards and give us reg mod guys a way to rid our sheds of those used tires we dont use. By allowing the same chassis to be used a guy could move up the next year or two and run with us reg mod guys without geting a whole new car, just drivetrain change.


nut3d
Member
posted May 17, 2002 10:45 PM
Wat is up with that motor rule. Only Chevy V8's allowed. I think they should run th350 with a converter insted of the power glide.


tbird
Member
posted May 18, 2002 12:01 AM
Should make it all the same as a reg mod except the drivetrain. Mkae it a ci limit and comp limit with a 500 2 barrell and not limit it to just one brand of eingine. Also i dont think too many will build this when they cant use it and be competitive with a reg mod if they move up, they would have to get another car.


28 mod
Member
posted May 18, 2002 03:18 PM
i agree with you guys let us buy a mod chassis and put our hobby stock motor and tranny in it and go thats the way all the tracks in northern ia and southern minn are running now and it's growing bigger and bigger every year. i don't realy see where the econo part is if you have to buy a $600 spec tranny. myself i plann on running till they make it manditory for the fords then i just won't be able to run the super nats witch is no big deal i just want to run them once and i still could run 2 nites a week after that


modfan
Member
posted May 19, 2002 05:41 PM
Around here (St.Louis) are b-mod class is the same rules as UMP mods except Holley 500s,gas, cast blocks and heads, oem transmission, must weigh 2650lbs. This a very compettive class and growing every week


RaceDoctor
Member
posted May 19, 2002 08:55 PM
I just finished helping produce a set of rules for a class here in South-East Texas
that will allow most any legal IMCA/UMP chassis to compete but there will be a engine rule similar to a Hobby-Stock with a OEM trans rule(manual or auto). It will probably be sanctioned thru SIMS(Southern Independent Modified Series) based out of the FT.Worth area in 2003. This will be for the racers that cannot afford the 10,000 $
engines that most of the top dogs are running. Just pick up a good used chassis stick a hobby-stock type engine in it and go learn how to drive and set-up a mod, when you think you've got enough money and enough seat time then you can jump back up to a full mod with the same car and hopefully run in the top 5. The claim rule obviously does'nt work down south, I haven't seen an engine claimed in 4 years, so stick some stiff engine rules and stick by them.......
.....just my 2 cents for what it's worth....


CUSTOMPERFORMANCE
Member
posted May 19, 2002 09:20 PM
RaceDoctor great idea thats exactly what the IMCA should do.

I know for a fact that the used mod market is saturated with plenty of used cars that could be bought for the range of $3500-$5000 that would be great to use in a limited type class. Most mod guys that run for points or money etc get new ones every year and there is more used mods than guys buying them.
If a guy could use the same car and run limiteds and he liked it he could go up with just an engine change and not a whole chassis change costing more money.


powerglides
Member
posted May 20, 2002 06:30 AM
glide the big money in mods is in the motor tranny and shocks if you look at it they have adderesed all those issues except the tranny deal. it's a great idea with the front suspention package there and the spec rear. a spec shock is another way to keep the coast down but making it manditory to run a certin stub is not any cheaper like i said if i run them i will run it till the ford deal comes in and then i'll run other tracks that aren't imca


#28
Member
posted May 20, 2002 01:47 PM
Just food for thought on the powerglide issue..I agree the supply is dwindling,but, if you increased the supply...???? Maybe IMCA is thinking ahead...I bet you see a rule change in the regular Mods to allow Bert or Brinns next year...This would make a powerglide easier to get...Things that make you go hummmm!!!!


Greggie
Member
posted May 21, 2002 04:43 PM
I was thinking the same thing as cheesy... I'm guessing 2004, though, just so they (IMCA) can see how the new class goes.

ME

powerglides
Member
posted May 22, 2002 06:06 AM
When I talked to IMCA's Tom Herbert in April concerning the rules for the B-mods he told me that the tranny rule was gonna make alot of people unhappy, but they were gonna try to cure that with doing "something different" with the tranny rules in the regular mods..But, I guess I'll wait for the rules to change before I run out and buy a bert..


devil wrench
Member
posted May 22, 2002 06:16 PM
mopar...Why do you think that using a bulletproof tranny that costs $1100 is a bad deal? With a $900 triple disc clutch and a $500 lightened three speed (we can't even find them in a junkyard any more in PA), you've got $1400 in it, and it'll probably break. That's not even including the explosion-proof bellhousing that isn't needed with a Bert/Brinn. We've run the same Bert for eight seasons now and the only maintenance needed has been fluid changes and a new seal here and there.

A late model with no fenders and 8" tires??? Boy, the late models must really stink around where you live.

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powerglides
Member
posted May 23, 2002 06:00 AM
I build powerglides for race money and even I think the bert type tranny's are a good idea for the upper mod class!


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