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Author Topic:   New IMCA Mod Class Rules
powerglides
Member
posted January 02, 2002 10:40 AM
my understanding is no exotic aluminum parts stock a-frames both upper and lowers no racing clutches and run on a holly 4412 2 bbl and posibley running a gm rearend oldgold


dirtslinger66
Member
posted January 02, 2002 10:08 PM
from what i was told by an IMCA promotor it will likely be a 360 9 to 1 with holley 4412 chassis will be the same as a regular mod


RACEFAN33
Member
posted January 03, 2002 12:26 AM
Is there any truth to this????????/


Pickles
Member
posted January 03, 2002 06:42 PM
According to last issue of Speedway Illustrated; rules will be out in April.


charlie_two
Member
posted January 05, 2002 03:51 PM
when this happens i wont run imca anymore.


devil wrench
Member
posted January 05, 2002 08:13 PM
Charlie, I'm sure it's gonna be another class, not the existing mods. No promoter in the world is dumb enough to obsolete that many people's equipmint with the stroke of a pen. At least, I hope not.


DMAXJ1
Member
posted January 05, 2002 09:00 PM
I like the idea we all know the cost of racing is out of hand. Our local track is running these rule this season it will let the little man back in racing!


dirtslinger66
Member
posted January 05, 2002 11:39 PM
It's going to be a new class they are not changing the current mods. There will be a A MOD class and a B MOD class


ford5
Member
posted January 06, 2002 07:13 AM
we already have an amod and bmod class here eastern ia., i have cars that run in both classes, and can tell you all that the bmods are just as much fun and competitive as the amods and the bmod class is growing while the amod is shriveling, and its all because of the money being spent! i have raced someform of cars since 1981 so i feel like ive seen it all transpire and i dont like where its heading, at least around here anyway!


hiredgun
Member
posted January 06, 2002 03:11 PM
You didn't ask for it, and you probably don't want it, but here goes our opinion and view on B-Mods.

Let me first start by the IDEA is great. Whoever came up with a B-Mod is someone who really wants to help the racers. But, the cost of the chassis (roller) are the same no matter what motor is in it. A new roller is anywhere from $9-15k. So, how is this supposed to be an affordable class when just by the price of the car you've eliminated 3/4 of the everyday people. Granted, the overall cost of a race ready B-Mod is less than that of an A-Mod, but what it's doing is splitting the class of cars. That's why SIMS did not come out with B-Mods. In the south racing is not quite as popular as it is in the north. When talking with promoters here in the south they said this: "Why would I want to take my current modified class, split it in half, and pay 2 purses." Here in the south, track promoters aren't as "well off" as they are in the north. Now, I'm not saying track promoters in the south don't make money off of their track because we all know they do. But, they don't do as well as the promoters in the north do. Especially in Houston.

Now, SIMS also understands how some of you feel about a Limited being a Bomber yada yada yada. But, you have to play the numbers when it comes to promoting. How many people can afford to build/buy a race ready B Mod? Lots yeah. But, there are a whole lot more who can afford a Limited. The people you see racing a Limited are people who under just about no other circumstances could afford to race anything that looks like a modified. So, this is their A Mod. Something they can take to sponsors that looks NEAT, something they can be proud of.

We understand that many of you want to be in a regular modified because you don't want to take a step back as you put it, and that's fine. But we at SIMS wanted to make these points so that everyone knows exactly why and where we at SIMS are coming from.

Thanks and good luck to everyone this race season!

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irace74
Member
posted January 07, 2002 10:35 AM
Instead of taking a step back, why don't we go back to the original intent of modified racing rules and apply the ASA standard. I be;lieve that the crate motor standard is extremely viable and appropriate for the modified class. This approach would allow for the use of a descent crank, good rods, good pistons and at a price which would allow the everyday racer to be involved, 5000-7000, to run the entire summer. I don't think anyone running the big shows is using a motor like this, most are using old late model 430's. Let's not split classes but, put a competative class on the track which is affordable to both the racer and the promotor such that the classes can expand and everyone can have fun.


21L
Member
posted January 07, 2002 11:34 AM
We have been running b-mods in mid-mo since the early 90's...and you dont need to buy a new 9-15 thousand dollar chassis to be competitive. with the weight rule you can be competititve with a roller bought from someone running an a-mod, it is pretty common site for the cars to be 5 years old or more. yes some guys have a brand new chassis every year, but, I have seen guys win with OLD mods also. locally we have a 2600 pound minimum, run a "stock" 4412 carb. And you cant tell me there is less money in the street stock class motors...there are gonna be some that spend outragous amounts of money on their motors, no matter what class you are in. All in all, I think b-mods..or limited mods, whatever you want to call them is a cheaper form of racing, with all the mods...a & b... the parts seem to be pretty plentiful over the net if you want to buy used, and seem to be no more expensive new than if you were running any other class of car. a set of gears is the same cost if you are running an a-mod or a hobby stock, your tires , seat, belts, shifters,hoses,pulleys, wheels, you name it, when you buy it they dont care what you are putting it on.


racer17j
Member
posted January 08, 2002 11:18 AM
i agree with you 21 we run them here in nc iowa and they are 95%used chassis sims i like your class but here are the few things i disagree with you on yes i'm sure you have heard the mod bodied bomber deal if you look at it there is no adjustability thats one thing that draws guys to mods and also you need to build a new chassis to run in your class till they get a few and start selling used ones i myself am looking at running b-mods this years and my uncle is going to be moving down to them so he can have some fun again after being out of racing for 10 years he tried to get back in he always ran mods and late models so he wanted to stay in them this gives him a chance to still be competive and aford to live lol he doesn't have the big bucks to run with the big dogs he only has one motor and thats nothing special he has tried to run regular mods the last couple years and has had no fun running hind tit.i myself am tring to sell my bomber so i can buy an old and i mean old mod chassis 89 flexi-flier i found a roller for 1000 and all i have to buy that i don't already have is headers and an alum rad. the only thing i don'rt like aboput the rules we run now is that you can still run the trick clutches and stuff i would like to see them go to a stock single disc clutch and funtional converter in autos also alittle more purse would be alright right now it is the same to win as hobby but it pays out better throught the pack


MOD RACER#93
Member
posted January 08, 2002 07:13 PM
We have a prety large class of B-Mods at the track I race at. The restrictions are limited to a 2 barrel carb and gasoline. I really dont see that much of a difference in cost from the A's. **** we have to pay $4.20 a gallon for gas.

In the Championship race last year, a guy that was running 2nd in the points in A-mod blew his engine in the hot laps. So his buddy lets him race the B-mod car in the A-mod feature. Finished 4th!!!! Not alot of difference at our track.

racer17j
Member
posted January 14, 2002 01:32 AM
tracker we have had guys do the same here with bomber and hobby cars these they are talking about are way down on power to a "A" mod 360 9-1 cast parts will not put out much over 350 hp compares to 4-500 in some imca and usmts cars


taz_3tat
Member
posted January 19, 2002 06:40 PM
we have been running b-mods at our track for several years now and have alot of success... i currently bought i full race ready champion chassis that won two features last year for 3100.00 so if you think its still expensive you are wrong i spent the day today looking in want adds for race cars and ive found bare chassis for as little as 500.00 to 1000.00 for a 1 year old 2 track champion winner i just put my new b-mod together for less then 5000.00 with mostley all new parts .... this class was designed to use up all the older a mod chassis sure they may need a little tlc but what care doesnt thats a few years old... and if you think that you cant afford spending a 1000.00 to fix one up u shouldnt be racing anyway


chas28
Member
posted January 27, 2002 09:54 PM
chas28
quote:
Originally posted by SIMS_Mods:
You didn't ask for it, and you probably don't want it, but here goes our opinion and view on B-Mods.

Let me first start by the IDEA is great. Whoever came up with a B-Mod is someone who really wants to help the racers. But, the cost of the chassis (roller) are the same no matter what motor is in it. A new roller is anywhere from $9-15k. So, how is this supposed to be an affordable class when just by the price of the car you've eliminated 3/4 of the everyday people. Granted, the overall cost of a race ready B-Mod is less than that of an A-Mod, but what it's doing is splitting the class of cars. That's why SIMS did not come out with B-Mods. In the south racing is not quite as popular as it is in the north. When talking with promoters here in the south they said this: "Why would I want to take my current modified class, split it in half, and pay 2 purses." Here in the south, track promoters aren't as "well off" as they are in the north. Now, I'm not saying track promoters in the south don't make money off of their track because we all know they do. But, they don't do as well as the promoters in the north do. Especially in Houston.

Now, SIMS also understands how some of you feel about a Limited being a Bomber yada yada yada. But, you have to play the numbers when it comes to promoting. How many people can afford to build/buy a race ready B Mod? Lots yeah. But, there are a whole lot more who can afford a Limited. The people you see racing a Limited are people who under just about no other circumstances could afford to race anything that looks like a modified. So, this is their A Mod. Something they can take to sponsors that looks NEAT, something they can be proud of.

We understand that many of you want to be in a regular modified because you don't want to take a step back as you put it, and that's fine. But we at SIMS wanted to make these points so that everyone knows exactly why and where we at SIMS are coming from.

Thanks and good luck to everyone this race season!