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ss38k
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posted December 11, 2001 08:30 PM
Hello everyone.I need help with my Front shock space.my car is a 82 monte carlo.my ? is .. do i lift the car. so the shock's fit .or do i cut hole's in frame for shock clearance.trying to keep ride hight were it is 7 to 8 "..i have 2 1/2 "of travel with 8 1/2" shock and 1 1/2" travel with 10" shock thank you

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prostock5
Member
posted December 11, 2001 09:06 PM
my car is a 82 monte carlo ..i do kown the camaro.come stock with the hole in the frame ..but not the monte carlo thanks


ss38k
Member
posted January 01, 2002 09:42 PM
need help


oldgold
Member
posted January 02, 2002 08:17 PM
why would you need to cut the frame ? your shocks should fit if they are street stock racing shocks and remember 2.5 inches of shock travel is about 5 inches of wheel travel oldgold


Yogster33
Member
posted January 02, 2002 09:17 PM
Bilstien makes a streeter shock that is a little smaller in diameter if your having a problem with clearance. I went from Afcos that rubbed to Bilstiens that cleared easy.I hope this helps


ss38k
Member
posted January 02, 2002 09:29 PM

i was Just going to email pro shock's about this.then i seen your ? oldgold thank you for any help i need it.it is like this.with my 8 1/2 " shock's i have 2 1/2" travel on both side's. right front is compressing 2 1/4" leaving me a 1/4" before bottoming out. i guess that is ok .i only have a 175lb spring on the rr. car is rolling over alot and left front look's like it try's to come off the track .i know it won't it is a 3400lb street stock .if i put a heaver rr spring on that should stop left front from coming up so much right.the cut out part come's from what i see at the track.the guy's are useing 10" shock's instead of 8 1/2" and cutting the top of the frame out and hooking the shock some were off the roll cage to keep ride height down. my guess.seem's to me like that would weaken the frame . buy the way my front spring's are rf 1500 lf1300 rf is only that stiff because i don't want to bottom it out.if i put a 1400 or a 1300 like i want it will be softer and there go's that extra 1/4" of clerance i have .....thank you for any help.. yogster33 i took care of all the rubbing thank you




racer17j
Member
posted January 03, 2002 01:22 AM
do you have to run a stock mount shock can you move it at all if so i would say move it to another point on the outside somewhere on the lower a frame like the modifieds do also the imca stock cars around here run that type set up if they must be stock yogster siad a bilstein shock is a little small diamiter that might help.have you ran this set up yet so you know it does bottom out? another thing that might help is a better spring package you might be off there with could cause probles with to much roll witch would make them bottom out.personally i wouldn't run anything higher than 1200 on the front of a metric car but thats just my opinion


ss38k
Member
posted January 03, 2002 06:10 PM

hello racer17J yes. i do have to keep shock's in stock mount's. and i have run this setup.it is not to bad of a setup.but i do want to go softer in the front but if i remeber right.the softer spring is going to let the car come down somemore. i only have a 1/4 " to spare should i Just lift the car another 1/2"or so.racer my shock's only extend out 5" .i am 2 1/2" out would it hurt to be 3" out with car weight on them. in the turn's i found that i am useing 2 1/2" of travel through the turn's on RF Thank you

hesseracing
Member
posted January 03, 2002 06:57 PM
i see in the messages that u cant move the shocks from the stock location, so if u cut the frame and run them up to the cage thats not stock anymore. i race on a 1/4 mile high bank clay track. my wifes car is a 78 olds cutlass. the springs are lf1000 rf1200. we are using afco shocks in the stock location and have no problem with them rubbing or bottoming out. if you raise the car your asking for big problems. metric cars are rollover prone anyways. if you raise it up it will be real dangeous. you shouldnt have to do anything to the frame/ a arm assembly to make the car work. good luck


ss38k
Member
posted January 03, 2002 10:14 PM
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when you take out my shock as car set's and put a tape were the shock go it is 10" .......i hate to say this put afco dose not make a 8 1/2" only 10" so with afco there is no room.. with the 8 1/2" there is 2 1/2" of room. right now my ride hight are around 7" to 8"..and i can cut a hole in the frame track dose not care as long as shock is going up throw spring.because that is stock mounting area ........thank you need more advise

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racer17j
Member
posted January 04, 2002 01:29 AM
are you running stock a frames and spindles and what spring heights are you running personally i like to keep with the KISS theory stock mount shock will work with stock parts unless you have moved something or you are running short springs are your springs 12 or 9 1/2 and are you sure you are mesuring your ride height right ? just a thought


ss38k
Member
posted January 13, 2002 09:38 PM
thanks for the help erveyone


jmorriss71m
Member
posted January 15, 2002 07:09 PM
If your shocks don't work, the way your telling it. Your car is to low. If it is to low your a-arms will bottom out in the corners and it will make you push. Been there done that. My car was low and put 2-3" taller springs in it and it worked even better in the corners.


oldgold
Member
posted January 15, 2002 08:51 PM
shocks you can also put longer bottom bolts in the shock hole and use a couple of spacers to space the shock down . i am confused as to why you would need a 1500 pound spring in your car although i race (asphalt) hope thats not a swear word. I use a 1150 rf x 9,5 inch spring and my car has 5 inches of ride height and doesnt bottom out. if you have any more questions feel free to ask as many as you need because we racers are here to steer you in the right direction oldgold


jmorriss71m
Member
posted January 15, 2002 10:30 PM
I ran a 82 monte carlo and a 79. I used a 1250 on the right front and a 1000 on the left front. car worked good. 1500 is way to much for a metric gm frame. They are not that heavy to run that big of a spring. I run fords now. Last season I ran a 3800 car and used a 1250. did not bottom out at all.


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