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brownstone
Member
posted September 10, 2001 01:38 PM
Did you do a starter draw test? If so what was the amperage that the starter drew? A regular starter should draw 125-175 amps. If it was too much more then that,look for a bad ground. The other possibility is that the motor does not have the proper clearances. Hopefully thats not the problem.


RangeRover
Member
posted September 13, 2001 01:36 PM
I had this problem once when firing a new motor had a new battery. I put 3 or 4 statrers in but it would only turn over with the charger on start mode. IT WAS THE BATTERY i had to get one that had enough cranking amps!!! Just my 2


millerlt3
Member
posted September 14, 2001 09:03 PM
If you have made certain the motor has the proper clearances, I agree with dirtracer14, even if the battery is brand new if it doesnt have enough cranking amps youll definitly have starting problems.


brownstone
Member
posted September 16, 2001 08:52 PM
Could you use a starter off a diesel engine?
We have done that before and it cranks faster than any other stock starter.


Gene
Member
posted September 17, 2001 04:27 PM
If you cant turn the engine over by hand at the flywheel, you have internal engine problems! Any starter should start the engine. Now how long it lasts, or what it weighs is another deal. But any oem starter should start a fresh engine.


KWTracer
Member
posted September 17, 2001 04:29 PM
You can go and get a 4,000 amp battery. But its only going to take 150 to 250 amps to crank the motor. If it takes 600, 700, 1000 amps to crank the motor, you've got big problems. A heavier (having more plates), more expensive battery will do the same amount of work for a longer period of time, but its not necessary. Since you say you've tried a new battery and starter, I would double check my cables and grounds, like someone suggested. Sounds like excessive resistance from a bad connection. OR improper tolerances. Just my thoughts.


brownstone
Member
posted September 17, 2001 06:06 PM
Have you checked the starter gear teeth to flywheel teeth clearance? Maybe you need to shim your starter with a few shims so that
the starter gears do not so deeply engage into the flywheel teeth.


Pit Bull
Member
posted September 20, 2001 11:05 PM
I know this may sound stupid but it may be your problem. Is it possible that the engine is kicking back from too much timing? To test, unhook the distributer wire or leave the ignition switch off while you crank the motor over. I did this once on a street car, and I felt like an idiot. I even replaced the battery and cables..


brownstone
Member
posted September 22, 2001 02:07 PM
Thnaks for all the suggestions and help. I gave in and spent the money on a mini starter. I did not want to but, after dealing with a jacka$$ at a starter shop and trying to explain what I wanted and being asked all sorts of stupid questions and being treated poorly, ( Litchfield Auto Electric, Litchfield Michigan)I went right out and bought one at VSI.

This jerk at the starter shop asked me if I had enough cold cranking amps and I told him yes, the batttery is new and has 850 cold cranking amps.

Then the idiot asked me how much money I had to spend needless to say after a few more retarded questions I walked out and I would not reccomend this place to anyone. In fact I would walk before purchasing anything from Litchfield Auto Electric.

Anyway, Needless to say after two cranks the motor fired right up with new mini starter. The mini starter even has a lifetime waranty many thanks to VSI in Indiana. What a difference the starter made.

Thanks again for the help to all those offered help.
brownstone


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