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Rookieracer76
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posted November 29, 2002 11:00 PM
Anybody running a panhard bar on a purestock ? im thinking of putting one on my 76 monte carlo. Will it work? the track is 5/8 track with low banking. Thanks to anyone with some advice!

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racer17j
Member
posted November 29, 2002 11:29 PM
if you have the stock rear suspention on there now i wouldn't mess with it just another thing to bind up they work on mods where they use heim joints but stock stuff handicaps itself enough you realy don't need to add any more. what would you be tring to accomplish with it?


Rookieracer76
Member
posted November 30, 2002 12:12 AM
Racer17j, I heard the modified guys talking about them so just was curious if you could run them on purestocks. You said if you have a stock rear suspention you wouldnt do it, what if i had racing springs and shocks ? Thanks for the advice !


outlawstock17
Member
posted November 30, 2002 08:53 AM
what binds the stock bushings most is the centrifugal force of the body pulling on the rearend in the corners. try a short chain bolted to the passengers side frame rail and to the top of the rearend housing. the chain should be snug, but not so tight that it's pulling the rearend toward the frame at ride height. this should keep the control arm bushings from binding up in the turns. you can make it adjustable with bolt running through the link to the frame. weld and gusset a tab to the top of the frame rail to run the bolt through. put a nut on both sides of the tab to jam the bolt tight. you'll need to tighten it every once in a while as the chain will stretch.

this will help the car keep it's "set" in the corners, especially on a rough track. when the rules say "no panhard bars", this will help. i wouldn't show it to everyone though. it might be a "gray area" at your track, lol.

racer17j
Member
posted November 30, 2002 12:54 PM
thats another thing you might want to check your rules first but if there is nothing about it then myself i would go ahead and buy swedge tubes and hiem joints converet it to a 3 link with a panard bar


racer17j
Member
posted November 30, 2002 12:54 PM
thats another thing you might want to check your rules first but if there is nothing about it then myself i would go ahead and buy swedge tubes and hiem joints converet it to a 3 link with a panard bar


Rookieracer76
Member
posted November 30, 2002 02:46 PM
Racer17j, The rules dont say i can't use one so it looks like i'll put one on. Thanks for the help!


Speed Racer X
Member
posted December 01, 2002 05:50 PM
this chain trick, would it benifit a leaf suspension? I have a 79 nova, thanks.


outlawstock17
Member
posted December 01, 2002 07:41 PM
eddie, it should be of benefit to a leaf suspension too. do your rear shackles look bent?


eddie7232
Member
posted December 02, 2002 10:08 PM
One last question on chain. Chain mounts on top of rearend and to passenger side frame--- but where at on frame?? inline with rearend?-axle tubes? in front of shackels? Thanks sooo much This site is truly a budget racers dream.

Yes it looks like new shackels could help. the u bolt-shock mount plate was very bent and broke-I did replace these and rearend does not shift as much.

66jj
Member
posted December 02, 2002 11:08 PM
i have used a chain like mentioned with leafs, dont know if it helped but it got a lot of looks, lol.

if you can i would deffinitely toss the shackles and add sliders, it will be worth it guaranteed... also i like to cut the frame off and mount the slider up higher, so the diff between the front eye and rear is 9-12" thats per landrums directions.

just throwing out some ideas on leafs..

oh yeah i allways ran a 90-10 shock on top with leafs also, 5 degrees up, and 12 inches or so above axle center line, it did help, it cam loose once and i could tell the difference on entry.. not as stable

outlawstock17
Member
posted December 03, 2002 02:53 PM
yes, run the chain parallel with the rear end or perpendicular with the frame(same thing), bolted to the top of the rear pumpkin and straight across to the frame. make the chain level at ride height. you may have to weld something to the top of the pumpkin to bolt the chain onto......like a bolt stood straight up on its head.

66j is right on the mark with sliders. they really helped on a car i raced a few years ago. it had a panhard bar though.

[This message has been edited by outlawstock17 (edited December 03, 2002).]

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