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Author Topic:   Which suspension to run?
StevePhillipsJr
Member
posted July 15, 2000 12:24 PM
I am moving from Super Stock class to UMP modifieds. I would like to hear from some of you guys that have had success with your type of suspension. I am currently looking at 1999 copy of the "Lightning Chassis". It is a swing arm design. I know that this will be one of my biggest and maybe most important decisions for buying a car. So any input from you guys would be appreciated. Thanks


awkwardjeff
Member
posted July 16, 2000 06:13 AM
Steve, What type of suspension you raced in the past? What type of dirt tracks do you race on? How much expierance do you have?????
All these a factors in choosing a chassis.
A swing arm, is that with a pull-bar or lift-bar?
I will tell you this, a 3 link.....2 lower links with a pull-bar is a easy car to set-up. And if you miss the set-up a little you will be close enough to be fair....with a z-link, or swing arm, or a 4 link....if you miss the set-up a little you will be out to lunch.....the 3 link is a good place to learn all that is nessesary, i like a z-link myself...... I hope this helps you.....
YOU NEED TO HAVE A CHASSIS THAT YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS AND HOW TO ADJUST IT IF IT DOESN'T WORK................JEFF


bbracer17
Member
posted July 16, 2000 02:01 PM
I was always told that a leaf spring car was very forgiving but after 2 years of trying them I can tell you that is not true. I switched my car to a three link but use a torque arm instead of a pull bar and the car is much better. I will try a pull bar when I get one, I'm sure that will work better.


StevePhillipsJr
Member
posted July 16, 2000 02:19 PM
Jeff
Thanks for the response! I am currently running a 3000# Camaro leaf car. It is basically a limited late model without the engine setback. Prior to that I ran a Street Stock Metric coil car. I have been fortunate to have been able to win several races in both type of cars. The chassis I am looking at is a swing arm with a pull bar. I think the main reason I want to move up is the quality of drivers and knowledge is much greater in this class not to mention the adjustability of the modifieds interest me very much. Oh yea, I am currently running on a 1/4 mile semi flat (9-11 degrees ???) track, pretty heavy in the heats, dry slick in feature with some rubber on the track. What is a z-link? Does it travel better from track to track? Or is it more tunable? Again thanks for your help.
Steve



lucky13
Member
posted July 25, 2000 03:02 PM
Your best bet will surely be to buy a car that was built by someone who's been winning a lot of races. No matter who you are, you'll get to a point where you can't make the car any faster, and with no database to fall back on you'll be out to lunch. I'm speaking from experience on this one... You buy a big name chassis, and you can always call the builder for advice, even if the car's used. The builder will always want his cars in front, even if they're second-hand. It builds the reputation which helps him sell cars.
I can vouch for the 4-bar being hot when it's hooked and out to lunch when it's not...it's currently not, and I'm wicked frustrated with it... to a point where I'm ready to fire the torch and redesign it. Winning b-features is like kissing your sister.

My $.02,
Matt


awkwardjeff
Member
posted July 27, 2000 01:13 AM
GNARLY, Did I miss some thing???????
You said, buy for a builer that wins alot, then when you have problems you can call on them to help you get the thing to go fast.
But you are ready to cut up your own car???
sounds like us.........LOL......We built our own z-link and some nights its was fast then we bent it all to crap.....after i fixed the car it has no forward bite, side bite, no nothing..........cant find anything wrong.
we ran our last year car a few times just to make sure it wasn't the driver........LOL
Well, thats enough for now.....I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF CAR YOU RUN THOUGH??
JEFF


awkwardjeff
Member
posted July 27, 2000 01:43 AM
STEVE, CHECK FOR A PRIVATE MESSAGE HERE.
sorry i didn't see your email addy until i sent you here..............JEFF


StevePhillipsJr
Member
posted July 28, 2000 03:35 PM
Thanks for the input guys!
Gnarly - Sounds like you're not sold on a 4bar yet. If you did fire the ole' "gas axe" (tourch) up what would you change it too?

Awkward Jeff - I checked my messages and responded to yours thanks again.

Just one more question for ya'll. Have any of you heard of a lightning chassis??????????

Steve

StevePhillipsJr
Member
posted July 28, 2000 03:39 PM
Thanks for the input guys!
Gnarly - Sounds like you're not sold on a 4bar yet. If you did fire the ole' "gas axe" (tourch) up what would you change it too?

Awkward Jeff - I checked my messages and responded to yours thanks again.

Just one more question for ya'll. Have any of you heard of a lightning chassis??????????

Steve

StevePhillipsJr
Member
posted July 28, 2000 03:40 PM
Thanks for the input guys!
Gnarly - Sounds like you're not sold on a 4bar yet. If you did fire the ole' "gas axe" (tourch) up what would you change it too?

Awkward Jeff - I checked my messages and responded to yours thanks again.

Just one more question for ya'll. Have any of you heard of a lightning chassis??????????

Steve

Sidebite
unregistered
posted July 28, 2000 04:55 PM           
Jimmy Owens is one of the best modified drivers in the country and he runs a Lightening chassis. You can reach Lightening at 606.878.7223.

[This message has been edited by Sidebite (edited 07-31-2000).]

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