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Donna
Member
posted March 29, 2000 11:05 PM
Modifieds: The American Racer vs the EMod A40. Do the EMod A 40's give an advantage over the American Racer tire? Is this the first year trying the EMod A40 tires around this area? Central Mid-West.. If a choice was given to drivers at a big race to either run the American Racer or the EMod A40's would that be fair? This year the NASCAR Mods & others will have the choice to run the EMod A40's-I think next year they must run the EMod A40's? What is the opinion out there on advantages & disadvantages?

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roostertail
Member
posted March 30, 2000 06:20 PM
The American Racer is the only way to go. Yes Hoosier A-40 is faster, softer, makes a car handle better, makes a poor driver look good. But it takes more horse power to keep up, more dollars to buy drive train that will handle the added stress, more dollars to buy tires every time you race, our local track just finished testing the a-40 and the Am. Racer, the a-40 was gone in less than 10 laps every time, so the track has oppted to not run the a-40, it is a nascar track, and it is not a required tire. You are better off to run the American Racer unless you like to blow alot of cash. Sorry I just feel very passionate about this issue.


Modracer05
Member
posted March 30, 2000 06:38 PM
The A40 is definately the better of the 2.
If you race at a track that is traditionally hard on tires you may be better with the American Racer.
We are also changing to the A40 at our home track in Oregon, and we just had our first run on them last Saturday. We had to go from a 5.43 gear to a 5.83 to keep the same RPM's. So for sure there is going to be more costs than just new tires when you switch to the Hoosier. The tires are anywhere from 3 to 4" taller than the American Racer. So you will also have to make some serious chassis adjustments.


Donna
Member
posted March 30, 2000 08:58 PM
Roostertail & Modracer05: OK, here is the story, we are drivers from the Des Moines, IA area, we put on the Drivers' Dream Race, yes..dirt track drivers put on this event for the DRIVERS. WE have always run pretty much according to IMCA rules with adjustments. This year the NASCAR mods will have the choice to run the EMod 40, and the IMCA Mods will be still with the American Racer. We are in a delima here..since we are just drivers, in how to be fair about the tire rule for the race. All are welcome, we want to make it easy for all to race, after all that is what this race is about, DRIVERS' from all over the country being able to race ONE WEEK-END a year for THEMSELVES! Now, if we say both tires are o.k. then are we making the playing field unequal? Then both sides have the choice on what they want to race. IF YOU..WERE COMING..and it would be nice if you would..WHAT WOULD YOU FEEL about it as a driver? We are trying to get opinions..we don't want to eliminate anyone..nor do we want to make it unequal. You could also go to our Web Site at: http://www.webslnger.com/dmara
Hope to hear from you soon!! Try to come if you can..would love to have you!!!
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Originally posted by roostertail:
The American Racer is the only way to go. Yes Hoosier A-40 is faster, softer, makes a car handle better, makes a poor driver look good. But it takes more horse power to keep up, more dollars to buy drive train that will handle the added stress, more dollars to buy tires every time you race, our local track just finished testing the a-40 and the Am. Racer, the a-40 was gone in less than 10 laps every time, so the track has oppted to not run the a-40, it is a nascar track, and it is not a required tire. You are better off to run the American Racer unless you like to blow alot of cash. Sorry I just feel very passionate about this issue.

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roostertail
Member
posted March 30, 2000 10:32 PM
Donna, We are close to your race. We are just west of K.C. and we race in Iowa regularly. Boone, Knoxville, Vinton etc. We have been checking out your race, I can only speak for Myself, If you go with the A-40 we will pass on the race. If you want to be fair and your asking one side to buy tires, I think it would be better for the drivers to buy the cheaper of the two, which is the American Racer. The A-40s I ran the other night testing made the car way to fast. I just don't think the racing would be as good. definetly Faster, But remember, SPEED IS AN ILLUSSION. door to door racing at any speed is better. I hope you go with the Am.Racer, but its your call, hope that helps. THANKS FOR LISTENING.


Donna
Member
posted March 30, 2000 10:52 PM
Roostertail: I am so happy that you responded, my husband is Chairman and we want to be fair to all of you..that is why we do what we do. I UNDERSTAND what you are saying..and I feel you are right. It is hard to make decissions on these things UNLESS you ask the drivers..and SOMETIMES getting you guys to respond is TUFF to say the least. But, like I said before..this is YOUR race and so your opinion matters very much..I want to vote the right way..I would never do anything to hurt this event..that would be just awful!! I know that many have said that Kathy Root has been talking to Hoosier and that Lawton has been too. I don't really know what that means..other than maybe IMCA is thinking about talking to Hoosier..will be interesting to sit back and see hugh? Well, again, I thank you so very much for your time & your welcomed advise. I am sure we will see you in September..it's hard sometimes Rooster to know what is right without talking to the ones it effects!!! That should be done by all, MORE often. To many times the sanctioning bodies don't remember there are two sides..and you guys pay the bills..:]
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Originally posted by roostertail:
Donna, We are close to your race. We are just west of K.C. and we race in Iowa regularly. Boone, Knoxville, Vinton etc. We have been checking out your race, I can only speak for Myself, If you go with the A-40 we will pass on the race. If you want to be fair and your asking one side to buy tires, I think it would be better for the drivers to buy the cheaper of the two, which is the American Racer. The A-40s I ran the other night testing made the car way to fast. I just don't think the racing would be as good. definetly Faster, But remember, SPEED IS AN ILLUSSION. door to door racing at any speed is better. I hope you go with the Am.Racer, but its your call, hope that helps. THANKS FOR LISTENING.



Modracer05
Member
posted March 31, 2000 01:34 PM
I agree with Rooster Donna. If you allow both tires the guys that can afford to A40's are going to have an advantage. Just an opinion at the moment.
Tomorrow night we are going to run our first race and I know some guys will be on the A40's and some on the American Racer. On Sunday I'll give you an update on how the two compared side by side in a race.
Honestly I don't think the American Racer has a chance next to the Hoosier but we'll have to see.


bbracer17
Member
posted March 31, 2000 04:51 PM
I have seen the two side by side in a race, the hoosier is definitely the dominant tire.
The American racer will make for better racing by not allowing the bigger better motors to have the advantage over the budget "claimer" motors, but like someone previously stated your setup has to be a little closer and you need to drive a little easier.


Modracer05
Member
posted April 03, 2000 02:02 AM
Donna,
Here's how I saw it.
We had 5 cars on Hoosiers. and 2 of the fast cars on McCreary's. The track was tacky and awesome fast.
It was really hard to compare the tires. Most of the guys who usually run up front were on the Hoosier. We did have 1 guy on the American Racer who was very quick, but I think it was more because of his car and his ability and not the tire. If I had to make a decision I would say the Hoosier was superior to the American Racer, but we'll have to see a dry s**** nite to really tell the difference.
Chris Murphy


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