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posted February 07, 2000 09:05 AM           
Hey guys, I think we might have a good thing happening at our home town track. The drivers and owners have finally decided that we can form our own association, set some rules, police ourselves, and have some fun. We are looking for suggestions on how we can set some limits on engines to keep our street stock class competive. The main problem we're facing right now is that the track owner has been allowing his brother to run a stroked 406( I may be off on the size of his motor but it's a high dollar motor anyway.) in the street stock division and no one wants to run against that kind of money. The car count is down to 3-4 street stocks every week. We would like to save our class and are open to suggestions for engine rules which can be enforced. Suggestions Please!

posted February 07, 2000 11:49 AM           
that all sounds good racermom. as long as the promoters enforce the rules. a cubic inch limit would be a way to start. say 358 max. stock heads and intakes only. no roller cams. that means hyd too. flat top pistons, stock rods. then maybe a gear rule so you can't turn them to death. just a few quick thoughts.

posted February 07, 2000 02:12 PM
trouble with any set of rules is enforcement, the harder to enforce, the more likely they will be violated.

A cubic inch rule requires a P&G and someone smart enough to operate it. This is a true pain for the racer, and likely will keep away as many cars as the big motor itself. Who wants to open a hot motor, after a late night, and wait until it gets puffed before they can reassemble it and go home.

Tracks have tried the compression gauge rule, like 175 psi max cylinder pressure when cranking. This makes motor builders cringe as there is virtually no way to know until the motor is together if it will go past this.

The claim rule is crude and effective (at least IMCA still believes it). And someone has to be the bad guy for this to work. Although the track buying a guys motor is an option. IMCA promoter Kathy Root did that in Vinton after a racer alledgedly dove on the brakes to drop to 5th, then she auctioned it off the same night. The proceeds were divided equally between all the cars that started the feature the motor was claimed from (so we got a check for 30 or 40 bucks more than the purse money).

A protest fee posted by a racer is another expense that the racer should not have to incur to help the officials determine if a guy is legal.

Guess what I am saying is it doesn't matter what rules you apply, you and the other racers have to enforce them, so be sure they are easily enforced.

Tony C
posted February 08, 2000 09:54 AM           
I would adopt IMCAs engine rules for hobby stocks and add a "teardown" rule or a "protest". Anyone (and I mean anyone) can protest against a winner's (or top four?) engine for $50 once per season/track. Heads are taken off and everything is checked (including stroke, porting, valve sizes, etc.). If it is legal then the winner (or top four finisher) has $50 for new gaskets and his time. If not he/she is disqualified and has to sit out a night or two. I think it would work. It would definitely help where there is a lack of enforcement. Good luck!

posted February 09, 2000 04:10 PM           
The track I race at has a bomber class that is very competitive,the rules havn't changed in 5 years they are cast iron block and heads,iron intake rochester or motorcraft 2 bbl.Using retreaded tires the big motors don't seem to have an advantage due to carb. and tire rules you can only hook up so much with 8 inch tires.

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