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Author Topic:   New house’s go up race track must go?
ratracer10
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posted July 28, 2004 10:57 AM  
At our local track we have some new neighbors that moved from the city (1 mile from track) that feel they are more important than the racers or thousands of fans of the track. It seams they are surprised that cars actually race at this track that has been here for years and that racecars are not silent. So now they are petitioning to get the “noise” stopped and end racing at the track. In response our track has imposed stricter muffler rules. I can live with these new rules, although being imposed in the middle of the year is kind of a hassle. However, knowing these type of people this will not be good enough and they will not stop until they get complete silence. Must be they have convinced the frogs, crickets, and other such wildlife not to make any noise around their house and the race track is all that is left.

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zeroracing
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posted July 28, 2004 11:23 AM  
they do the same thing at state fair speedway in sedalia mo, and kcir drag strip in kcmo.
move beside a racetrack and complain about the noise, its the same as move beside an airport, seen people complain about the noise from that.
sometimes you have to wounder just how much of a pain in the.... people seem to want to be. if you dont like something then dont move beside it, dont move thier then complain till they close it.

R26MOD
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posted July 28, 2004 05:09 PM  
Our Saturday night track has been running for 54 years. People have built houses all around it, as well as apartment buildings. All they do is complane about the dust and noise. When the track first started it was all by it self.

mrteeshot
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posted July 28, 2004 06:44 PM  
wow what a bunch of flipping idiots
duh who was there 1st and what do they think race cars are silent ??????

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21racer
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posted July 28, 2004 08:06 PM  
they tried that at no home track also everyone showed up at the courthouse for the meeting and they said the race track was there first tough @#&! we don't have to run mufflers either

econo2a
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posted August 05, 2004 05:41 PM  
yea about 25 years ago rocky mountian national speedway was in the middle of no where, but now this is there last year because of the home owners and the people that moved in around there

racer17j
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posted August 08, 2004 09:57 AM  
21racer,

What track was this at? Also do you know who might have info like a court case number that could be used for reference?

19J
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posted August 09, 2004 07:36 AM  
Tell them to go **** theirselves. That track probably brings more income than they do. People like that are idiots. I live in a small town and have track 1/2 mile away still in city limits. Some people complain but i think the track has been there over 100 years so they cant do much. And they just live with it.

Gunner 33
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posted August 09, 2004 06:45 PM  
Ratracer10,

I don't know much about the law or politics. I do know that who whines the loudest always wins. So I propose you start a petition against them (the whiners who don't want the track) for the tracks right to be there. Have it posted at the front gate and at the pit entrance gate for the fans and the drivers to read and sign. Also go to local businesses and residents and have them sign it. I think this would be a good first step to show the people who started the complaint that there are also allot of people in the town and surrounding area that like and enjoy having the track there for entertainment value. Being in the Marine Corps and based at an air station you wouldn't beleive the number of noise complaints we receive from people who just moved into town for producing the sound of freedom (jet blast). Where are you located and the name of the track.

Semper Fi!
Gunner 33

shadowsarge
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posted August 10, 2004 09:07 AM  
Had the same problem here. Landowner checked with all surrounding residents before building the track. The next yr they started complaining, dust, noise, lower property value etc. One night the local sheriffs office shows up and arrests the owner for disturbing the peace, even the deputy thought it was B.S. As of now we have a curfew, can run over time 3 times a year(big races) and the track must pay a fine for each O.T. after that.

crc1124
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posted August 10, 2004 05:51 PM  
I was wondering if there is any historical value to the older tracks that people try to shut down. I know our track is over fifty years old. Its still out in the country for now so I guess we're lucky. Maybe you could check with the local historical society and they may have some advice for saving your tracks. Good Luck!

racer17j
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posted August 12, 2004 04:33 PM  

The Vocal minority always seems to get its way over the silent majority. The only thing that can help any track is for the racers and fans to support the track during town meetings, zoning meetings and hearings where these NIMBY's show up and cry about the noise. The second thing politicians pay attention to is how many people show up for or against a subject. ( the first being who has donated to their campaigns).

ratracer10
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posted August 19, 2004 07:16 AM  
Gunner33,

I race at Ionia Raceway Park (IRP) in Lake Odessa/Ionia, Michigan (http://www.ioniaracewaypark.com).

I don’t know how far along this wonderful new neighbor is with introducing himself to the neighborhood, but I thought it would be a good idea to get some opinions on ways to try and head this off. These types of things are usually easier to put to an end in the early stages. Can’t wait to see what kind of a fit they throw next year. We have a new owner at the track that is planning a number of big events for Saturday to include some high dollar shows and even some concerts, along with the regular Friday night races.

P.S. Check out the photos of the Late-model that rolled last week on the home page.

[This message has been edited by ratracer10 (edited August 19, 2004).]

awkwardjeff
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posted September 04, 2004 12:01 PM  
This is getting to be a common problem every where...... In Rice Lake, WI. what they did is bring in the wissota rule book, showing the muffler rule......100 dec. @ 100 feet. They also brought in a log book showing they record the noise levels every night, once in a while a car is DQed for being too loud, that too is showen in the log (who and what level on what night). This showed the city the track was on top of the problem and worked with everyone involved, that they the track were being pro-active about noise levels BEFORE anyone complained. The people weren't happy still......so the city and track officals had a metting at the house of the lady crying the loudest ........guess what........ the night of the races dec. levels at her house were in the 50 range.......came back the next morning and took a dec. reading again without the cars running to see what the INCREASE was....... it was louder with no races going on........

Turns out the races were less intusive then the guy next door cutting his grass....that reg. in the 80's cars going by out front reg. in the 70's and a bird chirping in her tree was over 100.........

At the next meeting the example was given about listening to music........if it's something you like you turn up the volume, if it's something you don't like you turn down the volume............ If you like rock and roll and walk into a country western bar I promise you .....YOU WILL THINK THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD.

I'm sure you track owner has legal people working on this for him, I hope the legal team know about soome other cases out there and how they were resolved. It also helps if the track has a long good standing relationship with the county/city board.

supercomet32
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posted September 12, 2004 03:27 PM  
we have one of the best tracks here that has been shut down due to inconsiderate mover inners or as i like to call them immigrants who i would love to burn thei rhouses down but since that would raise an eye i have considered leasing the track and running shows anyway....the law was created by us why not change it or work around it...and if anyone who knows where to find funding to get something going let me know im ready to run a track been a tech been a flagman am a driver love and live to race..**** the neysayers and the neighbors if be

crew81
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posted September 12, 2004 04:02 PM  
Similar thing happened at Logan airport in Boston. Some people complained and the courts said the airport was there first and you should have known that when you moved in.

newracer3106
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posted October 01, 2004 03:06 PM  
of course thats what these people do for a living is ***** and whine about everyone else, now I know that alot of your tracks aren't as big as atlanta motor speedway, but this guy actually to help with the community pays all the hampton georgia residents property taxes every single year, and noone ever said a word again.

Thudpucker
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posted November 04, 2004 08:55 PM  
This is a common problem with Airports too.
The Track must get a lawyer, you fans and Racers alike must get involved in this fight.
If you lose, you lose forever.
Follow the lawyers advice. Make peace if you can, but do not leave the fight in someone else's hands. Get involved and stay with it or you will lose something you really need and want.

B-mod N8
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posted November 16, 2004 10:48 PM  
I live right across from the local track, I run a car there. Some of the local people have gone to the local township board and complained about the noise & dust etc. They are listened to and then told that the track was there long before they moved there. Do to the fact that I am one of the 3 voting members of the township board their complaints do not go far. Get elected to your local government, maybe it will be you who saves the track.

racerwilson
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posted December 03, 2004 10:40 AM  
That is the best way is to get local track supportersand racers on these local boards. It's the short term people that get on the boards and change local government then move away. They are not lifers, local people get involved!

goinrcn44h
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posted December 03, 2004 12:59 PM  
For anyone , anywhere that may be facing or is facing this issue the person you need to get ahold of is Bob Leach in cottage grove, oregon. I promise, they have had one of the largest battles on their hands for a long time over this exact issue.
The people that complain about noise after having only been there a year or something will always fail. The ones that complain about the noise but have much larger hidden issues are the ones you need to weed out and deal with immediately. Do whatever is necessary to put a screeching halt to this **** before it gets a head of steam. Cause there are way too many tree-huggers and the like that find it ammusing to jump on any cause that comes along.
There are very very few people in reality that have a problem, but the ones that do complain are the same ones that complain about everything. they are mad at the world and there is no way to talk any sense into their head. If they have proper motivation..( money ) hold on cause its gonna be a bumpy ride.
I still believe the 2 or 3 people that are behind the deal in C.G. were promised some serious cash, they were offered to be bought out of their present locations, relocated, upgraded , the whole deal and they didnt even flinch. that alone tells me there is a much larger factor involved.
PS.. they wanna build a golf course on this location...... so obviously there is huge money behind it somewhere...
M.Harris 44H

 

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