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Author Topic:   Wall or no wall?
Dirt Administrator

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posted June 23, 2001 10:55 AM  
well..... what i think is this. like it or not we need to have walls around the track to contain ourselves in case of a accident. i dont want to land out in the woods somewere, or the spectator parking lot cause i got knocked off the track. just hit the wall and fix it and go on. i like walls inside the turns.. alot of people dont.. battleground used to have walls inside the turns.. i liked it.. kept cars from shooting through the middle sturring up a cloud of dust.. also kept everyone on there toes too. not wanting to mess up in the corners and get stuck down there.. i dont like tires.. i cant seem to get away from the big tractor i alwayz want to run low.. also they get knocked out into the race groove a little.. but they dont want to stop the race to fix it cause to them it doesnt seem that bad.. but for us when it's dry and that waz the moister down low, and the tire just landed out in it... it just messes me all up. so i think walls around the outside.. with a fence all around to contain 'us' in case of an emergency. and walls around the turns are ok with me.. but no walls are ok too... just watch out for the tractor tires..

Dirt Full Roller

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posted June 23, 2001 02:42 PM  
Walls are good for the most part. Our track has the pits on the inside so there are walls inside and out. The original wall was a short boiler plate wall that served more as a launching ramp than a wall. Now they have installed a type of guard rail wall that is tall enough to stop the car from exiting the track. The down fall is the wall has enough of an inward tilt that when you hit it, it wedges that portion of the car down and if you hit in the right front it will"grab" you and put ya on your lid. So I guess walls are great to have but not to use. Oh and mod 93, yeah seen the tractor tires to. They don,t run very true when wedged underneath the car.LOL

Dirt Freak

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posted June 23, 2001 03:36 PM  
I can't stand the tires on the inside of the track either. There is usually one guy that keeps clipping them and dragging them out in the racing groove. I say walls on the inside and walls as needed on the outside.

Dirt Full Roller

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posted June 27, 2001 08:18 AM  
We have an open infield with no walls and I prefer it for a couple of reasons. The first is that it keeps the view open for the fans. They can see every part of the race track without any obsticles. The second is less damage to the cars when they spin into the infield.

Dust can be a problem however, when someone does go into the infield. I take care of that by blading a berm around the inside of the track and then making the infield side of the corners very very wet with the water truck just prior to racing. I don't make the berm overly large as to damage cars or get them high centered.

This keeps the infield dust down and discourages anyone from cutting the corners.

Dirt Maniac

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posted July 01, 2001 12:16 PM  
Wow. This is different. I never heard a racer say he likes walls. LOL I like walls about as much as I like pain. Obviously you need them to protect the fans and pits. Where the wall ends should depend on what is outside of the track. I've seen tracks that have a cliff on the backstretch with no wall and some tracks have a nice open field with a wall. If there is a good run off outside the track a guy can go spinning off the track by himself with little damage and come back and tag the tail. If there was a wall there he can come back into the path of everybody and end up with a bunch of broken cars and wallets. Inside walls? I say no. Just make it clear that if you cut the corner it will cost you positions. Although I did see a LM hit a tire and roll last night at the new Brushcreek track.

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posted July 03, 2001 01:26 PM           send a private message to Roadhzrd   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
Wall, more importantly, Wall placement. I have seen where the outside wall on turn 1&2 was on the edge of the racing groove,ala Big H when it was dirt, definetly too close.

Dirt Forum Racer

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posted August 03, 2001 04:32 PM  
Deek, I like your response. A wall is always a must to seperate the stands from the track. Walls that start and stop will usually collect a car or two over a season and those wrecks are can be bad.

I like the berm in the track infield. If you get it real wet the drivers will avoid it, but the space is still available to avoid an incident if things get tight. Fans have a better view of the whole track too.

And let's get rid of the tractor tires. They are nothing but targets.

Dirt Forum Racer

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posted August 16, 2001 06:58 PM  
My preference is no wall. I run at a track every week that has double guard rails with a dirt bank behind it. the track is about 40 years old and so is the wall! It seems to have a magnet in it because if you get close to it you are in it. I can't make myself run the high groove because I don't want to destroy the car. I usually run around 4th or 5th every week. We got rainout this week and went to another track without an outside wall with mainly the same guys that I race every week and I finished 2nd. I was really comfortable running the high groove because I knew all I would do was slide off in the grass if I missed my mark. It really makes a difference to me. As the commercial says, at my home track, I have to"Just Do it"

Dirt Maniac

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posted September 04, 2001 03:11 PM  
I personally don't like the infield walls. I once was at a track that had the dirt graded up in the infield. It stood about 3 feet higher than the track in the corners and tapered to the middle of the infield. You could hit it and it wouldn't tear you up but if you tried to cut the infield you'd get airborn. Outside the track I say in font of the stands and the pits and everywhere else not really.


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