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2448
Dirt Roller

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posted November 29, 2005 03:07 PM  
Does IMCA have a rule about what type of welds must be used on a cage. I am getting ready to buy a welder and I am looking at some MIG's. Didnt know if they had to be TIGed. What is a good MIG for this job. Want something I can use on reskins also.

zeroracing
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posted November 29, 2005 03:23 PM  
Imca has no rules as long as it is welded. A mig will be fine, i like a good miller, with gas, not flux core.
Any name brand will do fine.
Side note i have seen some cages arched welded, If the guy running it is a great welder then arch welded cages are just fine, but take more skill to get a good weld than mig.

Eljojo
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posted November 29, 2005 03:43 PM  
Do a search in the tool tech section. I think you'll find that most suggest a 220v machine with a mixed gas.

zeroracing
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posted November 29, 2005 04:12 PM  
If you have the money then get a good 220, I should have put that above. I prefer miller mig but most all large brand name welders are good, dont get a "craftsman, or snap on" stick to hobart, miller, lincoln.
Search the tool secton below.
Also I will say I have used a miller 135 mig and can pen. great for bumpers and cage fixes. It could make a cage in a car without a problem(pen is good and great welds) but duty cycle is low so lots of downtime letting it cool.

sideways
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posted November 29, 2005 04:44 PM  
I have a 130 and it is good for repair as metioned above.But when we borrowed my bosses 250 miller wow what a big difference.

dirt_mopar99
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posted November 29, 2005 04:50 PM  
We have run a Hobart 110v flux cored with no problems for fixing. Just need a good circut to tun it on.

2448
Dirt Roller

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posted November 29, 2005 09:06 PM  
I am looking at the Lincoln 175. I think it is the smallest 220 machine they make.

racer17j
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posted November 29, 2005 09:33 PM  
I personally couldnt be happier with my lincon 175, Its 220, but small enough to go where ever you go in your shop. I got it at lowes for less than 600, wouldnt trade it for anything

Champ2x36
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posted November 30, 2005 12:00 AM  
I have a Hobart Handler 120, and recently bought the Hobart Handler 180. You can get the Handler 180 at Tractor Supply co. for $648.63 with a cart.

A friend who builds modified chassis has a Handler 120 like mine, and he likes it for race car work with the .023" wire, says you can really control the heat with it. Just something to think about, most guys want to use .030 or .035 wire, but even with the small wire you can do pretty much anything you will want to do on a race car.

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Eljojo
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posted November 30, 2005 04:26 AM  
When the Lincoln 135 went South I boought a 175 You won't be dissapointed with that one.
I asked the local shop to match an E-Bay price, and they sold me a display unit.

Larry Seals
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Total posts: 47
posted November 30, 2005 06:36 AM  
What happens when you run a hobart to hot?My son run it too hot about 6 months ago and it will not push wire through anymore.Do i need a new handle now?

mansfief
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Total posts: 132
posted November 30, 2005 10:46 AM  
Larry, if you haven't changed the tip, the wire could be stuck at the tip. With the tip off and it still won't run wire through, it can only be a few things. Bad trigger, wire tension to loose, motor that runs wire through cable, or a mashed cable. My Hobart cycles off when it gets to a certain temp.

Steve Dupree
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posted November 30, 2005 05:33 PM  
I have to put a post too this !!!!!!!! i could care less how it is welded or with what as long as who welded it new what he was doing. This might sound dirty but penatration is the key!!!!!!!! whether a wire fed,coathanger and torch, or arc welder. Foreplay is nice but if you dont penatrate you have wasted alot of time for nothing!!!!!!!!!! lol

SDJohnson
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posted November 30, 2005 07:13 PM  
i have a hobart 175 with cart for sale that is 1 year old has been used one roll of wire through it has regulator and hose with it for sale 475.00 $

ryan
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posted November 30, 2005 09:28 PM  
I have a Hobart 180 at home and its fine the main thing that I don't like is that it only has 4 heat settings. Bought it at bomgars on sale for $525. I might be spoiled from my work welder. It's a miller 350p the one with the digital display a little spendy but its nice. Don't spend the money on a cart. We made one out of a hand cart that can we switched from 2 wheel to 4 wheel and part of a old gas grill. Sounds weird I know but it works great and doesn't look half bad either.

outlawstock17
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posted December 01, 2005 04:29 PM  
i've been using a lincoln sp-250 for years. it's a 250 amp 220v machine and it's the easiest to use mig welder i've ever used. it's the one with the digital display. you punch in the thickness of your material, the type of material, the gas being used and it automatically sets the wire speed and voltage.

it will also let you know if you're using the wrong gas for the material you're welding...

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dirtrace54
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posted December 03, 2005 11:45 PM  
snapon was made by Century but is now made by lincoln im told

  

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