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mansfief
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 128
posted November 01, 2005 09:18 AM  
I am build my first Camaro this winter and was wondering if the section where the door hinges were located are cut out or left in. I am going to cut out the under part of the dash and move back the fire wall and would like to cut out that portion and use tubing in that area. I can use all the advise I can get, Thanks

poorboy racing 53
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 21
posted November 01, 2005 01:33 PM  
I would cut it out and put some bars in to protect your legs.

sc1 racing
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 419
posted November 01, 2005 02:51 PM  
cut it im working on doing one now..if you want ill take some pics tomorow and send them..

bryanb30
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 243
posted November 01, 2005 05:51 PM  
check your rules before you cut it, just to make sure its legal to do so

oceanridge motorsports
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 27
posted November 01, 2005 09:20 PM  
Is the frame tied ? If it is ,and the rules let you , gut it like a full frame car .We run one with the frame tied , if you do it right you can hack out EVERYTHING , when the bodys off mine all there is the stock firewall ,trimmed pretty good , and the stock floorpan to the rear of the drivers seat . good luck , and welcome to the leaf spring society !

mansfief
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 128
posted November 02, 2005 05:22 AM  
I am going to tie the frame together, I have been told to use a 2 X 3 tubing, haven't decided yet. We was told that we could massage the fire wall for engine set back, so I was thinking of cutting out 4 to 6 inches on the sides and top of fire wall and moving it back and weld it back together. Questions: Can or should the rocker panel be cut out on the outside, does the front rubber body mounts be replaced with steel spacers, and how is the best way to strenghten the rear stub. We have to leave the trunk floor pan in, only can cut for fuel cell.

sc1 racing
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 419
posted November 02, 2005 08:15 AM  
im going to get pics now. you shouldnt cut any off the firewall just cut down the seam and overlap and weld. then you will still have plenty of stought firwall in case of tranny/engine, or drive shaft malfunctions.

oceanridge motorsports
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 27
posted November 02, 2005 10:40 AM  
For the front body mounts , use hockey pucks.as for tying the frame together , we used 2x2 , you trim the top off of the bump on the inside next to were the spring mount is , once you do that you will see a nice u shaped slot , take your 2x2 , after a little floor trimming ,and slide it into the rear of the sub-frame , set the other end into the u , and weld .your done! as for the rockers ,we cut ours out , completly , gone , they are just mud catchers . BUT we also run aftermarket doors , and fenders , the only stock thing on our body is the top of the rear qts and the roof. as for the rear , the only way that I can see that works is to undersling it , that , along with an x-brace is about all you can do. That and don't back it in the fence ! How far can you go with your motor ? ours is trimmed overlapped and rewelded like sc1 said , our rules say #1 plug even with ball joint , we have that and still have some room.If thats what your rules say I would not move it , sounds like a lot of work for not much gain.

sc1 racing
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 419
posted November 02, 2005 10:45 AM  
tried to email but wouldnt here are the pics.somehow i deleted the ones from where i cut it and how much but if you look close you can tell. after some welding and a lil bondo no tech can ever tell.. this is a nova but has the same floor pan..








mansfief
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 128
posted November 02, 2005 12:46 PM  
SC1, thanks for the pictures. That is all most exactly what I had in mind. But, we are not allowed a speaker in car. lol. Thanks a bunch and I might have more questions. The reason I am going to a Comaro is that they are the top runners here. Could be my driving though. Mansfield

sc1 racing
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 419
posted November 03, 2005 06:38 AM  
yea the speakers are a big speed secret.just now getting the shop built back due to a fire so its not pretty..lmao

leaf cars are the way to go unless you want 500.00 worth of springs/shocks,and weight hauled to the track with you..

mansfief
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 128
posted November 03, 2005 10:23 AM  
I know how you feel. My garage burnt Jan 3 02, lost 96 Cad, 88 olds, race motor, all extra parts, and my big loss was three dogs, always by my side.

leddy #33
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 32
posted November 03, 2005 10:29 AM  
Manfief, Sorry to hear about the dogs. I know how you must have felt about that one.


SC1, Nice pics. I am sure they will help alot of people including myself who are new to this.

[This message has been edited by leddy #33 (edited November 04, 2005).]

Donnie Ross
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 264
posted November 06, 2005 05:55 AM  
I'll bite on this one ,how did you get those angles in your upper control arm's?I am assuming this was done to set the roll center where you wanted it?

Leaf
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 40
posted November 06, 2005 07:47 AM  
doesnt look like there are any springs in the car up front.


Leaf
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 40
posted November 06, 2005 07:58 AM  



 
heres some pics of my subframe connectors, front sits on top of front clip back sits inside rear rails.

the front leaf mounts are built to bolt in the stock cups

Original Outlaw
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted November 06, 2005 03:57 PM  
SC1, who built your cage? I bought a Nova from Iowa and the cage is just like yours...Just wondering...

redneck racing
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posted November 07, 2005 11:58 AM  
SC1 nice cage, I do have a question though, I build my own cars and have been told numerous time not to mount the front bay bars off the dash bar but to come off the main down bar on the cage, seems to me doing it like yours would be the way to go as long as you support it off the main cage with a diagnal into it then come off the center of the dash diagnal to that, seems to me in a front impact that that would keep the dash bar from crushing in. Your thoughts. Eddie

sc1 racing
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 419
posted November 07, 2005 10:29 PM  
the cage came out of a 2001 dirtworks modified. 3rd night out the man twisted the front up to bad to fix so i bought the cage and stored it. i just cut roof off. measured in between sub frames. cut cage and sat in and welded. im to busy to build a new cage and this is the way to go. not to mention these things are designed for max saftey and weight placement. it does have springs in front but ride height isnt set untill car is complete.

if anyone is interested we sell any type of car with cage for 900.00. all you have to give us is a down payment and copy of the rules. we have the sidewinder jig, and an early 90's grt jig.

    

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