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Author Topic:   Leaf or Coil
Mark Wakefeld
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted October 29, 2005 04:26 PM  
Which cars are better?
Which are easier to set up?

Local track has coil cars that have put leafs in them. So Im thinking leafs must be better?

Xtreme12x
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 874
posted October 29, 2005 04:30 PM  
It's a toss up:

Leaf's hold up well, but you can't change rates as easily, I'm not a real leaf guy

Coil's in my opinion are better, guys have won on both and do every night.

dirt_mopar99
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted October 29, 2005 05:14 PM  
On rough / dry I like my leafs... on smooth / tack I wish I had coils

OvalRocket34
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 81
posted October 29, 2005 05:37 PM  
Also depends on what your more comfortable with. I have run both and prefer the coil car over the leafs. I'm building a new coil car for 06 after having a Camaro this year. Just hated that car!

Mark Wakefeld
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted October 29, 2005 05:57 PM  
What didnt you like about your camaro??

xtreme, what do you mean leafs hold up well? The main thing Im holding against them is they supposedly will only last 2-3 nights on the lr hooked up.

I did notice some guys switched to composites since that was allowed this year.

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted October 29, 2005 07:10 PM  
Leafs do wear out fast compared to coils. Guys can usually get away with 5 to 6 shows before they start getting "sloppy" and notice the setup going away. Monoleafs are even worse from what I've seen.

The thing I didn't like about my car was it wasn't as predictable as my coil car. Every corner was an adventure for me because I wasn't sure what it was going to do, nor did it feel very stable to me. Now before you think I didn't have it set up right, We spent 5 hours on the scales at a local chassis builders shop. #'s were great but the car was just evil. I can't wait to get my coil car done for 06!

md3 Racing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 32
posted October 30, 2005 06:43 AM  
coil vs leaf???? its true that a leaf car can be faster but they are alot more expensive throu out the season.on a coil car your springs will last you a long time a good brand of coil springs claim they will only loose 1 or 2% through the season as for leaf you can go through 3 or more sets in a season if the car is set up proper.
if you get to much bite you can junk a set in one night. ive run coil for years but i was offered a ride for the 05 season in a leaf car we did well but in 06 we will be back in coil. leaf cars are higher maintance and spend to much time on the scales for me

2FAST4U
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 175
posted October 30, 2005 08:14 AM  
i ran a coil car at first of the season, i sucked . we built another camaro its bad fast, i feel that you can depend on them more. theres like 3 leaf cars and the rest are coils and we have ran upfront. so its all about what you like

juni
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 184
posted October 30, 2005 08:24 AM  
Have won track championships with both camaro/ nova / metric malibu/ monte carlo both have ups and downs . The leaf cars had much better steering then a metric car and they are user friendly for us . If you have very little knowledge the leaf is best . If you want to try lots of different set ups and like to learn the coil is better.And the metric has a full frame and you can still find lots of parts cheep. I watched a nova kick but against a full field of very fast metrics last night on a 3/8 dirt track last night . He had better forward bite off the corner .So see whats winning at your track and make your choice. GOOD LUCK.

Eljojo
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 968
posted October 30, 2005 08:24 AM  
I've run both and prefer the leaf. I keep it off the ground thru the week and re-work the stacks at mid season. If the track is tacky the coils are just as fast, but when it gets slick, the leafs are much easier to control. I have tried the composites and love them, but had to go back to steel. One of the reasons the leafs need to be replaced is because guys like to run the really soft ratios. I run stiffer ratios and a 30/30 left rear shock and a 40/40 rr. No tie downs. I plan to get softer on the shock combos next year on the slick stuff.

Eljojo
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 968
posted October 30, 2005 08:27 AM  
Hey Ovalrocket wasn't that Camaro you ran a "disco" model with coil rears and a torque arm...lije an 1986 model? I just saw the pic you posted and now I am am confused...that happens a lot anyway. LOL

neil rucker
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 799
posted October 30, 2005 08:33 AM  
"disco" model? ill use that one if you dont care!

robhbk24
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 372
posted October 30, 2005 12:27 PM  
no ovals car was the old style chassis with the new style body on it. nys DIRT pure stock/street stocks are a whole diff breed

OvalRocket34
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 81
posted October 30, 2005 01:59 PM  
Rob is right. The car, well the front stub anyway, was a 79 Camaro. The body was a 5 star copy. No Disco, I prefer Techno...

Xtreme12x
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 874
posted October 30, 2005 02:00 PM  
A guy with the username of "Leaf, MalibuMan, or 66jj" ran leafs this year and might have more input. On an old leaf mod we ran in 96 they were a pain but worth it back then. Now... coils are the way to go IMHO.

As far as the holding up well statement, I meant they hold up well against other cars on the track, but are a pain to work with off the track.

oceanridge motorsports
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 27
posted October 30, 2005 05:17 PM  
Just got back from the 10,000 to win s.s. show in modoc s.c., staring line up , 5 metrics , 1 "disco" camaro , 18 2nd gen camaros , the first metric across the line was 14th .9 out of the top ten were sporting brand new leaves for the race .the other fella was 5th ,said he had 6 nights on his ,and they were junk by the end of the night , zero foward bite . 7 landrum , 3 afco .

Mark Wakefeld
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted October 30, 2005 05:50 PM  
Thanks for the info.

I talked to one guy here who had 3 years on his leafs and hes a good runner but they looked just straight accross.

I suppose they have set all they are going to and hes made it work for him.

My car would have to weigh 3500, so maybe Ill go with a coil car. There seems to be a lot of good info for them on here.

Thanks again.

    

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