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ryan
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posted October 03, 2005 10:59 PM  
I'm out of racing for a year or two but when I come back I want a newer body style. What years of cars do I need to keep an eye out for. Grand Prix, Lumina, Monte's etc

Eljojo
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posted October 04, 2005 04:13 AM  
2007 Monte---!

robhbk24
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posted October 04, 2005 08:12 AM  
88 and newer fwd cutlass,regal,grand prix,lumina, monte carlo, tornado trofeo (sp), all fit fairly well i put an 88 cutlass body on mine after running it as an 85 regal and it only required min trimming and changing. i would love to find one of those tornados, but the cutlass and grandprix stuff interchanges well so it makes it easy to find parts

robhbk24
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posted October 04, 2005 03:04 PM  
88 and newer riveara (sp) will work well also

tigeraid
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posted October 04, 2005 03:36 PM  
Ya as long as you don't mind a little cutting and splicing and rivets and sheetmetal work, any of those late model W-bodies will work (Lumina, Grand Prix, Regal, Monte Carlo, etc) ... We recently put a '94ish Lumina body on a G-body chassis, didn't require too much effort.

ryan
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posted October 04, 2005 05:29 PM  
Anybody have any pictures. Eljojo you provide the body I'll put your name on my car.

racer17j
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posted October 04, 2005 07:04 PM  
Thanks Ryan! I needed a grin bud!

ryan
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posted October 04, 2005 08:11 PM  
Who's joking??

eborcim
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posted October 05, 2005 11:43 AM  
I put a Lumina body on a metric chassis this year. If you are using a cage with a wide main hoop, that takes up a lot of the interior space on a metric body, you may have to do some trimming in the roof brace areas for the halo. You also might have to put some patch panels on the wheel openings. I'll try and find a couple of pics of the car and post them.

eborcim
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posted October 05, 2005 02:12 PM  
I think this is an 05 or 06 Monte on a newer CBR chassis. In Monte 1 you can see how the rear hoop is leaned in behind the driver to clear the body. Leaning that hoop in allows more wiggle room between chassis and body.

Monte 1

Monte 2


Monte 3


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WesternAuto17
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posted October 05, 2005 03:38 PM  
That is one sweet lookin machine. I've been searching a Lumina / Monte / Grand Prix body for years, but haven't found one cheap enough yet.

robhbk24
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posted October 05, 2005 04:05 PM  
try the local abandon car auctions or police impound, i paid 125 for my cutlass after i took off what needed body wise i junked the rest and got lilke 90 bucks back at 75 dollars a ton junk. the cutlass cars used galvinized (sp) metal on most all of the panels so of the w car group i think they might be the lightest panels the seem really thin but still strong the whole thing enede up lighter than my 85 regal body was and that was built half stock half aluminum.

ryan
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posted October 08, 2005 10:35 PM  
Could a guy take a four door and skin over where the doors used to be and then make a new pillar out of alum??

redneck racing
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posted October 09, 2005 10:37 AM  
Dont see why not, theres one at the local track. Eddie

iowa_dirt_track_girl
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posted October 09, 2005 06:48 PM  

 
here is one of the coolest IMCA stock cars that I have seen in awhile it was at the Boone Supernationals

thrill hill
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posted October 09, 2005 07:13 PM  
That car looks good but where are his bars that belong in front of the driver to keep big stuff from hitting him in the head? Is this a IMCA stock car?

Steve Dupree
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posted October 10, 2005 03:28 AM  
That is a neat car there dirt track girl. Is this dirt track girl or is this hubby using exes id i was just curious so i would know who was talking. Well i am sure it is hubby and thanks for all the help we really got the car running at the end of year so it will be strong for next year.

sjakes
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posted October 10, 2005 12:53 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by thrill hill:
That car looks good but where are his bars that belong in front of the driver to keep big stuff from hitting him in the head? Is this a IMCA stock car?

I talked to Randy Havlick at Nationals, we were discussing certain items on that car and he mentioned it was a an ASA or some other type of Asphalt car. The do make a custom bumper now that fits the aftermarket noses etc. Alot of what they did with that car, you could incorporate into an IMCA Stockcar.

WesternAuto17
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posted October 10, 2005 03:25 PM  
That car sure looks alot like a Mid American aspalt car.

Whatever the crud it is, it sure looks good.

iowa_dirt_track_girl
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posted October 10, 2005 04:41 PM  
This is the husband we are back together again steve

I will try to remmember to sign at the bottom of any post that I make from this point on as to who this is since we had a big to do over this website and her posting things.

I hope that the fellas that read her posts did take what she sayed to heart cause she is very knowledgeable about racing and car setups. In fact that is what we was kinf od fighting about,I didnt know that she was going on here and telling people about what we do to the cars. But after looking at this site I have found that you all are a good bunch of guys and I think that It will be fun to beable to help you all out in the future.


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ryan
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posted October 10, 2005 07:10 PM  
What is that a newer monte? Looks good it even has the right number on it. Looks like on the newer models there might be some clearance issuses under the hood like the rad. and fan.

o5racer
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posted October 10, 2005 07:18 PM  
You could always head over to redbull and see how they had theirs mounted. Just an idea.

ryan
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posted October 10, 2005 09:41 PM  
I like that bodystyle late 80's early 90's grand prix maybe. They don't seem like a group that would do things the correct way if you've seen their cage you know what I mean. Plus I don't think I have ever talked to them. I called about a lumina for parts in the paper good tranny and motor bad body.
Hard to justify spending too much money when I got a 86 Grand Prix sitting around doing nothing plus an aluminum hood off a cutlass to fit a big car.

p.s. Puppies are gone sorry Nick maybe next time lol

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thrill hill
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posted October 16, 2005 09:15 AM  



 
Here is a 1997 Monte on a metric frame. We had to widen the top 5 inches because we did not want to bother the original halo. Front and rear are original width. Purchased front nose and rear tail from Performance Bodies.

DJR22
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posted October 16, 2005 06:41 PM  
Good lookin car thrill! Reminds me of what a cup car ready for the dirt might look like(which would be pretty friggin sweet).

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-stand on it-

ryan
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posted October 16, 2005 06:52 PM  
Thats pretty nice looking car. I found one 90 lumina and two regals at my local wrecking yard ususally he's pretty fair with me $25 31 spline 3rd memeber, $7 alum bumper, and a $25 alum hood so hopefully they'll be reasonable. What does everybody else have to give for newer bodies?

thrill hill
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posted October 17, 2005 07:23 PM  
Thanks for the compliment. CarStar did the mud work and paint. We will redo for next year but need another body and they are hard to find cheap. found one for $250 with front end damage. We have new fenders, $25@ and a hood we got from a auction but we need sides and rear quarters after racing a season. Some would race the way it is to start out but we always start out with new skins. This car won 14 races last year racing 2 nights a week. One championship, and 4 points from another one. Nothing special, just metric with a good septup and a driver that wataches ahead. I've told my son, the driver that aerodynamics played a part in the winnings this year but he won 13 last year so that is out.

ryan
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posted October 17, 2005 09:39 PM  
Picking up a 90 Lumina Z-34 Sunday has a little front fender damage, other than that a good looking car. Anybody want to buy a couple of newer Regals?
Looks just like this except not as shiny.

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oceanridge motorsports
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posted October 18, 2005 05:41 PM  
Has anybody tried hanging any of these on a 70-81 camaro ?

OvalRocket34
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posted October 18, 2005 06:14 PM  

 
Attached is a pic of my 05 car. Long gone now, I sold it after 4 runs.... I HATED the car. Going back to metric next year and I'll tell you now, the new car will smoke this one by far when it comes to looks.

oceanridge motorsports
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posted October 19, 2005 10:56 AM  
canandaguia ?

OvalRocket34
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posted October 20, 2005 01:27 PM  
yep, good call

oceanridge motorsports
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posted October 21, 2005 01:03 PM  
Grew up there , dads cars won 2 s.s. , and 1 sportsman championship there . Great track .

ryan
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posted October 21, 2005 05:42 PM  
1000 views didn't expect that more new bodies are more popular than I thought.
Anybody gut a Lumina is it a pain or about like anything else.

robhbk24
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posted October 22, 2005 08:13 AM  
never gutted a lumina but the cutlass wasn't bad except for the inner roof panels they were really a pita had to cut them out in pieces. i Also wanted to save the top of the door frames to reuse to fill in so i gutted them and they were time consuming too butu overall it wasn't bad. i cut the roof and quarters off together with windows still in tact and all inner panels set them up on a set of saw horses and cut from underneath then lift everything on the car.if you do it right you can leave the donor car as a roller if the strut towers in the rear aren't rotted out just cut around the outside of them

eborcim
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posted October 25, 2005 08:14 AM  
Gutting the Lumina wasn't too bad, just take your time and use Milwaukee Flamethrower (or comparable) blades, unless you use a flaming hacksaw. I separated the dash right at the door posts and used the post stubs for mounts. We could also cut out the front door frame and rocker panels. I would leave the package tray in for strength until you get the body mounted. I cut mine out and had a heck of a time lining up the rear deck...made it easier to set down over the chassis though. Door skins were tough, but I've seen them done very nicely. Our rules state 3100 lbs and IMCA-style body cuts, so I mainly gutted the interior for roll cage clearance.

racer17j
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posted October 25, 2005 04:40 PM  
little sawz-all trick the wife learned in her emt class have a bottle of water and dish soap handy and spray the blade while cutting cools and lubes she said they cut 3 cars in 1/2 frames and all with one blade

    

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