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kenny petitt
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 32
posted September 22, 2005 11:39 AM  
Let me asked a question how is the best way to set the toe on a metric front end. are both of the wheels going to line up stright or is one going to be toed in or out.

marshalr
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 148
posted September 22, 2005 11:58 AM  
first center the steering getting equal lengths from the steering pivot points.
with all those being adjusted right, the RF wheel pointing straight ahead, put your toe out in LF.

WesternAuto17
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 569
posted September 22, 2005 03:22 PM  
Here's how it was explained to me -

A grocery getter is toe'd in so that while it is running down the highway, the front wheels will be pulled paralell to each other and run true at higher speeds on pavement. A dirt race car is toe'd out (mine is .25") so that as it is screamin' down the straightaway, the front wheels are "pulled" tight against the center link to keep them stable. That way they won't shake left to right.

I set the toe on my car by adjusting it to zero toe (at the middle of the tire, same distance up from the floor on both the front and back of the tire). Than I run the left (at this point, it makes no difference which wheel you adjust) wheel outer tie rod out unitl I get .25" difference. Done.

I have a feeling there will be some other opinions on this one.

Steve Dupree
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 316
posted September 22, 2005 04:35 PM  
You probally will get a few that says different but doing alignments for over 25 years they are in the dark. You are correct is does not matter what wheel you move and it will not change anything unless camber and caster have been played with first. Some think you can add bump steer and stuff buy what wheel you adjust but they are in left field. When the wheel will turn any and all ways you want it you will change nothing by changinbg what side you adjust and if you have a quick connect sterring wheel just take it off and put it on a different way if you want the wheel straight. If you dont believe me put it on the machine and check it for yourself.

akadirtracer7
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 217
posted September 22, 2005 05:12 PM  
I do it the easy way. half a$$ point the tires forward then get my homemade toe guage and measure the front of the tire,were it is the widest then I move the guage to the back of the tire and see how much its toed out.I adust the wheel that I closest to usally the rt. side , but either wil work.Had a buddy at the track tell me he sets the toe by rolling the car back and forth and adjusts it where the car rolls the easiest.He has been chasing an ill handling car all year.thats a new one on me

eaton89
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 268
posted September 23, 2005 05:23 PM  
I get tires as straight as I can then put my homemade toe plates on the outside of the front tires. Making sure that the plates are centered on the wheel or beside the wheel. I then take 2 tape measures and measure at the same time on both the front of the tire and back of the tire and from the same side of the car. I run a 1/8 to a 3/16 toe out depending on the week. I have some wore out parts so it verys a little

dirtyboy58
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 40
posted September 25, 2005 07:31 PM  
i set mine at 0 toe we all have some play in the steering on the track rolling creates some fricton and the play will give you 1/8 to a1/4 toe out if you set it at 1/4 to an 1/8 out on the track you will have too much

monk
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted September 27, 2005 06:23 AM  
My advice..adjust toe last in your set-up procedure(after scaling,after caster/camber adjustments).1/4 MAX. 1/8 is best.
Set the left front straight ahead and adjust at the right front(tie-rod).
Measure using "toe plates" or a "trammel" bar.Measure at the same location on the tire sidewall each time,roll the car back and forth each time you measure and bounce the front end after adjustment and before re-measuring.

    

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