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XCross92
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted August 25, 2005 01:51 AM  
Hi, this is the first time I have posted here. My brother and I are both in the National Guard servering in Iraq. We have been talking about trying ourhand at dirt track racing. Obviously we dont know much about it except we love racing and we have always wanted to do this. I figured with all we have been through in this war, we deserve do something we have dreamed of. We want to start at the bottom and just have fun. We want to enter a car in our local tracks, Street Stock class. All I am looking for is help and/or advice to get a car ready that will be competative so long as I can drive it ok. Here are the rules for the Street Stock class here, if anyone can help me get started, I would be very grateful:

CAR & BODY
A. 1973 OR NEWER FULL FRAME CARS ONLY. NO UNIBODY CARS ALLOWED. CAMAROS, NOVAS, ETC
B. 108" MIN WHEELBASE
C. STOCK STEEL BODIES ONLY
D. HULLING IS ALLOWED, BUT MUST RETAIN FULL STOCK FIREWALL AND FLOORPAN.
E. ALL DOORS MUST BE WELDED SHUT
F. 6" SPOILER WITH SIDE BRACES 12" LONG, NO HIGHER THAN SPOILER
ENGINES
A. ANY CUBIC INCH
B. ANY INTAKE, ANY CABURETOR ALLOWED
C. HEADERS PEMITTED
D. NO ANGLE PLUG OR ALUMINUM HEADS
E. O.E.M. IGNITIONS ONLY
ENGINE CLAIM RULE
A. TO CLAIM YOU MUST BE ON THE LEAD LAP AND FINISH IN THE TOP FIVE - CAN ONLY CLAIM POSITIONS IN FRONT OF YOU
B. TO CLAIM AN ENGINE IS $1050.00 WITH THE SPEEDWAY GETTING $50.00.
C. CLAIM MUST BE MADE WITHIN FIVE (5) MINUTES OF COMPLETION OF RACE
D. CLAIM DOES NOT INCLUDE HEADERS, BUT DOES INCLUDE EVERYTHING ELSE FROM FAN TO FLYWHEEL AND BREATHER TO OILPAN.
E. ANY DRIVER WHO REFUSES TO SELL LOSES ALL WINNINGS AND POINTS FOR THAT NIGHT, LOSES HIS RIGHT TO CLAIM FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, AND MUST SIT OUT FOR AT LEAST TWO (2) RACE WEEKS. THIS MEANS THE DRIVER AND THE CAR, REGARDLESS OF BEING SOLD ETC.
SUSPENSION
A. SPRINGS AND SHOCKS MUST REMAIN IN STOCK LOCATION
B. NO WEDGE BOLTS OR ADJUSTABLE SPRING CUPS
C. ALL A-FRAMES AND CONTROL ARMS MUST REMAIN STOCK, MAY BE LENGTHENED OR SHORTENED
D. ALL STEERING COMPONENTS MUST REMAIN STOCK
E. STOCK TYPE REAR-ENDS ONLY, MAY BE LOCKED
F. NO TRACTION AIDING DEVICES ALLOWED, 90/10 SHOCK, PULL BARS, LIFT BARS, ETC.
TRANSMISSION
A. NO AFTERMARKET OR DIRECT-DRIVE TRANSMISSIONS
ROLLCAGE
A. MUST HAVE AT LEAST MAIN LOOP WITH BRACES RUNNING TO FRONT AND REAR
B. IF DRIVERS DOOR IS HULLED, YOU MUST RUN AT LEAST THREE (3) BARS IN IT
C. FULL ROLL CAGES ARE RECOMMENDED
WEIGHT
A. 3100 LBS MIN AT ANY TIME
FUEL CELL
A. FUEL CELLS ARE MANDATORY
B. MUST BE IN 20 GAUGE STEEL CONTAINERS AND SECURELY FASTENED
WHEELS AND TIRES
A. AMERICAN RACER 56, or 56 SPEC, HOOSIER D-55, or D-55 SPEC NO SOFTENER ALLOWED (MUST CHECK MINIMUM 52 ANYTIME BY TRACK DUROMETER WILL BE CHECKED WEEKLY)
B. STEEL WHEELS ONLY 12"MAX
C. NO WIDE FIVE WHEELS ALLOWED
D. NO BEAD LOCKS

I apologize if this is too long, but I really hope someone will be kind enough to help us. Thank you.

Billy Cross

J3
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 188
posted August 25, 2005 07:52 PM  
Thats a rough expensive class to start in. You might want to start a little lower on the food chain for a year or so first, then move to that class.

Whether you go to that class or another, best thing to do is check with a local driver at the track you will race at and start talking to them about every thing. Most guys will be willing to help.

XCross92
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted August 25, 2005 10:51 PM  
Thanks alot, but this is the lowest class at our track. THere is no "bomber" class. Street Stock, then it goes up to Hobby and on up. I do plan to talk to guys at the track, but I am in Iraq now and I am just trying to learn a little bit.

J3
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 188
posted August 25, 2005 11:44 PM  
What track are you planning on running? All the tracks I have ever been too the "Hobby" class was like pure stock or bomber. Then up from there to street stock. Hard to learn without being there. It is best to start going to the track and go in the pits and start talking to people. Maybe even helping someone for awhile before just jumping in with both feet. Jumping first you will have a steep learning curve and will spend money in the wrong places doing the wrong things. This is a good place to start though. I know how ya feel, been there done that and will be heading over there again in January. Good luck, and return safely.

Eljojo
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 968
posted August 26, 2005 04:12 AM  
Those rules are WFO to spend a LOT of money! Does your track run the crate lates? That might be a more cost effective place to start.
And BTW
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

[This message has been edited by Eljojo (edited August 26, 2005).]

CLBaker25
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 193
posted August 26, 2005 07:21 AM  
If I was going to start out I would try and buy a middle of the pack car at the track that you are going to race at as a roller to start. I am sure that there is a middle of the pack car at the track you plan on racing that is going to give up racing. I would try and get a car like that used to start. That is probably the easiest way to start racing and get all of the little things that you need at once. The hardest part about putting a car together is all of the "little" things that you have to buy.

Good Luck.
SFC Corey Baker

PS You are in our prayers.

purestock71
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 17
posted August 26, 2005 09:09 AM  
I agree with CLBaker25, with those rules to build a car that would be competitive (sp) would run into money quick. You could buy a Hobby Stock cheaper then building a SS with those rules. Also the season is almost over for this year, people will be moving classes and selling their old cars, you can get one at the right price real soon even a SS car.

Thank You
Semper Fi
Ed

XCross92
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted August 26, 2005 04:12 PM  
Thanks for your support guys. Here is the deals at the 2 tracks close to me back home. One has "Street Stock" as it lowest class, which I posted the rules for. The other has a "B-Hobby" which has the same rules. The latter track has what they call a "cruiser" class but its dumb. It requires a driver and a passenger. The driver steers and you have to move the pedals and the passenger does the gas and brakes. I think that is silly and dont want to do that. I am not worried about the money, I just want to race and these are my only options. I understand that this class looks like a step above what I used to know as a "bomber" or "enduro" class, but I feel confident I can drive the car, as long as I can set it up right. I agree, I think I should buy a car from the track and go from there, but, I am just looking for things I need to learn about how to setup a car within the rules that I posted; What some of you consider the best things to do or expierment with. The two tracks ar both dirt, 1/3 mile and 3/8 mile bank about 15 degrees I think. So, if anybody can give me ideas, tips, little things I can use, I would greatly appreciate it. Consider that this is my "asking around the track" since I cant be at a track right now. Thanks alot guys.

Billy Cross

purestock71
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 17
posted August 26, 2005 04:32 PM  
If money is not a problem I say build away. The rules are wide open to build one fast car, good luck which ever way you go. If I can help a brother in arms let me know.

Ed

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted August 26, 2005 09:12 PM  
92,
First off, let me thank you and congrdulate you on your service to the nation and your time in Iraq. I am a brother in arms from the Montana National Guard but not deployed.
I say this about your racing, I have raced for 20+ years and if you want to have "Fun", start in the class you can afford. If that is the lowest class, than start there. You can purchase a car from the competitors, but sometimes they will steer you wrong so be careful. Be as informed as you can when you purchase. If you can afford it buy a new car built by a factory with a reputation (a good one) that will help you get it set up. spend the money that it takes to have a good car and you will have fun. if you don't have a ton of money, buy something and just HAVE FUN. Race it only when you want to and just have fun.
I am getting a street stock together to do just that and it is a cheaper one but I only plan on racing it when I have money to and when I am in the mood. I have more fun that way.
By the way, use a chevy/buick/olds/pontiac full frame car and chevy horsepower. it is the cheapest and easiest to find. which state you in.
Race On Man.

[This message has been edited by uforacing51 (edited September 07, 2005).]

    

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