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RACEINMUD
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Total posts: 323
posted August 23, 2005 04:04 PM  
Hi All. Shouldn't complain about car after Saturday nite. But after watching the video, The car seems to float across the track coming out of the corners and not much forward bite. Here is what I have: Metric : 3560 lbs. RF 1200 lf 1050 rr 200 lr 220. Scaled 48.5 cross, 53.1. rear, 54.2 left. 100 lbs bite. Shocks rf 6 lf 5 rr 6 lr 5 Pinon angle 6 and lowers set at 5 uphill. Panhard set 3 inches down left frame w. about 1 1/2" drop to the right. Run IMCA tires at 18lb rf 16 rr 12 lr 12 lf. Rims: RF 2OS,LF3OS,RR 4OS,LR 4OS
Ride hights: rf 7 rr 7 5/8 lr 6 5/8 rf 6
Please let me know if ya see anything I can change to help this car get some more traction. And yes, I've been easy on the go button. Thanks, Race

ryan
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posted August 23, 2005 09:11 PM  
In the topic its side bite and your post is forward bite. If you are looking for side bite get your left side percentages down and that will help you out. Put a small chunk of weight up high on the right side wouldn't hurt you either.

CLBaker25
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posted August 24, 2005 07:52 AM  
raiser your rear ride heights. You want an inch to an inch and a half of rake from the front to the back. How do you have a 220lb spring? Is a spring going flat on you? If so I would change out that spring if it is losing rate.

J3
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posted August 24, 2005 09:23 AM  
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Originally posted by CLBaker25:
raiser your rear ride heights. You want an inch to an inch and a half of rake from the front to the back. How do you have a 220lb spring? Is a spring going flat on you? If so I would change out that spring if it is losing rate.

When you say "rake from the front to the back" what exactly do ya mean. Can you clarify just a bit please. Is the front higher or the back?

CLBaker25
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posted August 24, 2005 11:25 AM  
If your front ride heights are for instance LF 7, RF 7.5

Then an inch of rake would be rear:
LR 8, RR 8.5

If it was me I would run atleast an inch front to back rake in my car. We run an inch and a half. I beleive that it give you more bite in the car. I think it also puts your rear trailing arms at the proper angles to work the best.

RACEINMUD
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posted August 25, 2005 04:27 PM  
Ok, I agree, my car does not have the rake I think it should. My 11" springs are maxed out with the added weight to get the rear % up. I have located a set of 13" springs 225 & 175. Do you thing that is to much split? Thanks, Race

CLBaker25
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posted August 26, 2005 07:14 AM  
We won a feature on got second with that spring split. So I would not think that it would be a problem. The only problem we ever had with that much split is the car getting loose on entry. (My driver likes to throw the car in though.)

We also run more air pressure in our right rear. About 16 pounds.

[This message has been edited by CLBaker25 (edited August 26, 2005).]

RACEINMUD
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posted August 31, 2005 08:27 AM  
I was hoping my setup would lift the back of the car and plant my rear tires. Yesterday I took my car and ran it on an asphalt track. When I hit the gas, the back of the car squated. With the angles of my trailing arms I was under the impression that the back of the car should lift. Any ideas or should I just accept this is how my car reacts? Thanks, Race

CLBaker25
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posted August 31, 2005 03:32 PM  
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CLBaker25
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posted August 31, 2005 03:35 PM  
With that spring split and those springs the car will seem to squat on the right rear. That spring split will make the car want to get on the right rear and should give you excellent forward bite on exit. How was the car besides the squating.

RACEINMUD
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posted August 31, 2005 03:47 PM  
Thanks CL, car was good, took it easy in the corners due to the IMCA tires being only one nite old. Didn't want to chew them up. Ill let ya know how goes Sat. nite. Thanks, Race

RACEINMUD
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posted September 06, 2005 08:30 AM  
Well, That did not work. Car pushed like a Mac truck. I went to 50.1 cross and about 146 lr bite and 54 rear. I believe part of my problem was the panhard. I thought the lower I mounted it the less roll I would get. Not the case. Only one race left. So I'm going back to my old setup to finish the year. Thanks fo the help this year. Race

CLBaker25
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posted September 06, 2005 01:40 PM  
I would keep the springs and just raise your panhard bar up. I am glad that you got it hooked up, just I guess it was a little too much.

    

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