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Author Topic:   Only cheaters win, part deux!
uforacing51
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posted July 12, 2005 04:01 PM  
I raced a car for 2 years that was 100% legal in every sense of the word. Lost every race we were in with that car. Got lapped most of the time. Then I started cheating with it, won with it the 3 time out with it. what does that tell you.

97dirt
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posted July 12, 2005 05:15 PM  
If you can't beat'em cheat'em

ispin
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posted July 13, 2005 10:25 AM  
Its like barry bonds said "I didnt know that cream was illigeal or was a steroid".. "Really I didn't" So that makes it ok right

J3
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posted July 13, 2005 10:29 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by uforacing51:
I raced a car for 2 years that was 100% legal in every sense of the word. Lost every race we were in with that car. Got lapped most of the time. Then I started cheating with it, won with it the 3 time out with it. what does that tell you.

That tells me you should be DQ'ed. YOu don't have to cheat to win. Neither one of my cars are illegal and they are both front runners.

superdave
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posted July 13, 2005 09:36 PM  
The exact quote of the IMCA rule IOWA_DIRT_TRACK_GIRL is talking about says "One 12-volt passenger car battery only" the word only at the end of the sentence implies that a single twelve volt battery is the only battery allowed. It doesn't just apply to the 12 volts but to everything in the sentence.

I would have dq'ed you. The intent and purpose of the rule is important and that's why you ask before you buy or do something. Creative interpretation of the rules is just another attempt to win a race by being something other than the best driver. Cars don't win races, drivers do and that's why their are rules to start with.

Good luck,
Superdave

0LT
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posted July 14, 2005 10:53 AM  
"Creative interpretation of the rules is just another attempt to win a race by being something other than the best driver."

If the best driver won every race then the other racers wouldn't show up. You would have 1 car on the track for each race. It is the "creative interpretation" that keeps things interesting. If we were all legal we wouldn't need tech inspectors, but you know that ain't going to happen! I for one know I am not the best driver on the track, and if I can "bend" the rules but not break them, I will. Every winning car I have ever seen at every track I have every been to pushed the rules to the very limit, even IMCA cars. Sorry, I don't buy into the "I am 100% legal and win all the time" bit. If you ain't cheatin', you ain't winnin'.
0LT

Tire Killer
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posted July 15, 2005 10:48 PM  
Ok people.

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Tire Killer
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posted July 15, 2005 10:50 PM  
Ok people think about this for a second. Creative thinking is what evolves our world. If it wasn't for this concept we would not even have cars to be racing! We would still be riding horses instead of "horsepower". There is nothing wrong with using your head for something other than a "hat rack". If I can figure out a way to make something work more effeciently and I'm not breaking the rules, then you can bet the farm that I will try it!!! And the only reason someone will complain is because they didn't think of it first. But the other side of the coin is if you do figure something out make dang sure you do your homework on it. So you will be able to explain your invention so that it can be accepted not ridiculed. For a simple example, we did this with beadlocks. We proved to the tech guy that it was a safety feature, not to mention a time factor (not as many cautions with tires pulling off in the corners). This was during the off season and the following year they were legal (right side only). Just some food for thought!

Remember if it weren't for the human brain's capacity for thought, we would look like a bunch of monkeys sitting around scratching our heads!!

redneck racing
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posted July 16, 2005 10:44 AM  
I dont call it cheating I call it "Creative interpretation of the rules" I have read the rules at different tacks and boy there are the so called gray areas where you have to use your imagination its kind of the dont say you can but it dont say you cant either until its found by the tech. Eddie

Donnie Ross
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posted July 17, 2005 08:06 PM  
my favorite saying is they have to be cheating because I am and can't catch'em.

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gahainsey
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posted July 18, 2005 09:14 PM  
Remember....part of racing is who can build the best hot rod!! The tech guy once told me I read too much into the rules. My reply was "It is not my fault that I can read!!"

bigbad33
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posted July 19, 2005 07:17 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by uforacing51:
I raced a car for 2 years that was 100% legal in every sense of the word. Lost every race we were in with that car. Got lapped most of the time. Then I started cheating with it, won with it the 3 time out with it. what does that tell you.

That tells me that you are not good enough at setting up your car or driving to win without an unfair advantage.


nine finger
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posted July 26, 2005 10:07 PM  
sticks and stones.... call me what you want yes i am a cheater whatever it takes to win. at least i dont drive dirty to win. ps. i race with some of the finest cheaters out there, and would not want it any other way!!!

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