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Author Topic:   Monte Carlo or Camaro
jihayden
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted June 19, 2005 12:44 PM  
I am thinking about starting to race dirt track and i was wondering which one i should get and why?

racer17j
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posted June 19, 2005 02:17 PM  
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Originally posted by jihayden:
I am thinking about starting to race dirt track and i was wondering which one i should get and why?

I know a little, and I have worked in the pits a little but I was just wondering about some of the pros and cons that I might not know about.

97dirt
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted June 19, 2005 03:44 PM  
I think its all in what you want, if want a coil spring its easier to work with, but if you want a leaf spring its more forgiving, both will work, you can win with both, Camaros are getting hard to find, metrics are plentiful, at least around here anyhow.

Mr.Kwik
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 87
posted June 19, 2005 04:54 PM  
Don't forget about the 3rd and 4th generation Camaro's and firebirds. These cars are very fast! The only thing the non-believers will say is they are weak and they bend easy. I have built a few of these cars and have had numerous wins and along with those wins have been some pretty nasty wrecks, one straight into the wall but came back out the next week to spank everyone. All cars bend it's attention to detail when building it and knowing how to fix it when it's bent.

4d_POWER
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 136
posted June 19, 2005 06:35 PM  
How 'bout a cametric?

Camaro Front / Metric Rear


Just Kidding, get a Crown Vic Ford, it has the camaro front end and metric rear already! Ford Power Baby!!

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pro1
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 26
posted June 20, 2005 01:45 AM  
FORD JUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Kwik, I hit the wall head on hard enough to bust steel bellhousing and came back to win the following week. GO 3RD GEN CAMAROS.


redneck racing
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 860
posted June 20, 2005 10:12 AM  
Im picking up a metric Camaro from Joe Taylor here in July, have always run a Nova, I think that leafs are probably easier to set up than coils but will soon find out, the advantage of using the camaro front clip is better front end geometry. Eddie

racin78p
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 333
posted June 20, 2005 10:36 AM  
METRIC. (with a Camaro stub "grafted" on)!

I write this, but the current, and VERY fast points leader here locally is running a Nova. It's a working machine. I just like the possibility of more adjustment from a 4 link with the metric cars. It works for me.

Race on.

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jay116
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 428
posted June 20, 2005 02:01 PM  
can we stick to the subject monte carlo or camaro... and why... not camaro or nova

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Blind Barney
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posted June 22, 2005 11:02 AM  
Some tracks are outlawing Cameros and that is why there is some great deals on Cameros these days so do some research with your local tracks. The metric 4 link is the way to go right now. In my experience the leaf spring cars are better on the half mile or large 3/8 tracks but there will probably be a few to come on and say they are getting beat by a leaf car on a quarter mile track.

redneck racing
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posted June 22, 2005 09:21 PM  
Personally I think its all in the setup, in 2000 there was a guy who ran a Duster on the local 3/8 asphalt track when the coil thing started, he beat everybody, now the majority of cars are coil but there are the few Nova and Camaro guys out there and i think it comes right down to the pocket book, the guys that are always up front with the coils have the sponsors whereas the leaf guys dont, also had a buddy who always ran up front with a 71 Nova but he had the cash to back him, comes down to a money and setup. Eddie

69racer
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted July 01, 2005 07:54 PM  
I started out in 84 monte carlo, was a good car, won a few races in 3yrs on that car. Ijust built 81 firebird, took same motor, tranny, gear ratio,and the car is just a faster car.Metric is good for some seat time, but in my opinion firebird is more advanced. After all it is a sports car from the factory.

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D9Dave
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 43
posted July 02, 2005 11:34 PM  
I love my camaro. would not trade it for 2 metric cars.

Tire Killer
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 47
posted July 03, 2005 12:00 AM  
Ok if I understand you correctly, you are just starting out right? Well for one thing the leaf rears (camaro) tend to be faster. IF you can get the set up dialed in. And for a beginer that is a mighty big IF. Now the coil rears ( Monte Carlo ) are ALOT more forgiving to mistakes. Also they are easier (in my opinion) to find that correct setup. I run at Devils Bowl in Texas and we have both types winning races and filling the top 10 every week! So it really depends on your funds and the people you have at your desposal to help find the right combination of spring, shock, air preasure, and weight distribution for your new hot rod. Either way you go I wish you good luck! And remember this is a sport of trial and errors, reserch, and most of all paitents!!! Have fun!

ARMallardSlayer
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 175
posted July 04, 2005 10:46 AM  
quote:
can we stick to the subject monte carlo or camaro... and why... not camaro or nova

Let these guys voice their opinions and you'll probably get your answer......all threads drift off occasionally.

My son runs a camaro and he's getting better every week, but I see alot of metrics doing extremely well....sooooooo

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ARMallardSlayer
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 175
posted July 04, 2005 10:47 AM  
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Originally posted by Blind Barney:
Some tracks are outlawing Cameros and that is why there is some great deals on Cameros these days so do some research with your local tracks. The metric 4 link is the way to go right now. In my experience the leaf spring cars are better on the half mile or large 3/8 tracks but there will probably be a few to come on and say they are getting beat by a leaf car on a quarter mile track.


Where are they being outlawed at and what is the reason behind it?

No talk of outlawing them down here....bring em down here and we'll buy em all!

sideways
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Total posts: 715
posted July 04, 2005 11:09 AM  
Our track does not allow camaros and"uniboby"Full size full frames only 108wb.Most are metrics but one of the fastest is an long G.M. or sorts not sure what it is??I think it may be a larger metric.

beachracing
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted July 04, 2005 02:19 PM  
Let's look at the facts,......modifieds for the most part use some type of coil spring, be it a regular coil, or coil over. Adjustability is the main factor. Leaf cars are fast, but if you race at different tracks they will encounter set up issues at some point. Metrics(small light version,... not intermediate chassis), are set up friendly, and albeit a bit touchy to even air pressure changes, which I have found out. If you ever get one where it is close to neutral, and doesn't loosen up after long runs, you will have a winner.

    

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