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BRIAN MCCLAIN
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted May 24, 2005 05:25 PM  
I HAVE A 85 CAMARO. IT GOES IN THE TURN GOOD AND COMES OUT PERFECT. MID TURN IS THE PROBLEM, BAD PUSH. I HAVE TO GET COMPLETLY OUT OFF THE GAS TO GET IT TO TURN. I HAVE TRIED ALOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS BUT NOTHING HAS HELPED. I HAVE JUST RAISED RF TO 1300 FROM 1100 AND RR TO 200 FROM 175 BUT HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TRY IT OUT YET.LF IS 1050 AND LR IS 200. ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT HELP?

97dirt
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted May 24, 2005 06:56 PM  
You have just tighten the car even more with a 1300lb right front spring

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted May 24, 2005 07:46 PM  
85 camaro. OK what kind of track, what percents, left side, right side, rear. Coil overs on the front require different spring rates to achieve car balance during cornering. The distance from the pivot point of the lower a-arm is further out to where the shock mounts, thus the moment of the arm in relation to the work causes leverage decrease.

BRIAN MCCLAIN
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted May 26, 2005 12:38 PM  
52% LEFT, 51% CROSS 46% REAR WITH 1" STAGGER IN REAR, 1/2 IN FRONT. I HAVE TO RUN STRUTS ON FRONT BUT STRUTS HAVE BEEN DRILLED. I HAVE RACING SHOCKS MOUNTER BEHIND OF STRUTS.LEFT FRONT SHOCK IS A PRO953 RIGHT FRONT IS A 95, BILSTEIN SHOCKSON REAR. LEFT SIDE WHEELS ARE 3" BACK SPACE. RIGHT SIDE ARE 2" BACK SPACE. THE TRACK IS A 3/8 MILE WITH MID BANKING. THE TRACK FOR THE MOST PART STAYS WET TO TACKY.

Mr.Kwik
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 87
posted May 26, 2005 07:46 PM  
Brian, I run a third gen car also, you can see my posts with a few pics on this site. Go back to the struts! I ran "dummy" struts before and that's not the answer. I run monroe gasamatics on the front. The main thing you need to know is to run 12 inch springs up front and 13's on the rear. I have found that if you keep these cars close to the factory ride height they tend to work ALOT better.

BRIAN MCCLAIN
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted May 26, 2005 08:03 PM  
THANKYOU VERY MUCH! I WILL TRY THE NEW STRUTS FIRST, THEM A LITTLE LATER I WILL TRY THE LONGER SPRINGS. WHAT COMPRESSION AND REBOUND ARE YOU RUNNING ANDD WHAT SPRING RATES? THANKS
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Originally posted by Mr.Kwik:
Brian, I run a third gen car also, you can see my posts with a few pics on this site. Go back to the struts! I ran "dummy" struts before and that's not the answer. I run monroe gasamatics on the front. The main thing you need to know is to run 12 inch springs up front and 13's on the rear. I have found that if you keep these cars close to the factory ride height they tend to work ALOT better.


Mr.Kwik
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 87
posted May 26, 2005 09:50 PM  
Brian check your PM.

BRIAN MCCLAIN
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted May 29, 2005 04:23 PM  
I CHANGED SOME SPRINGS AROUND AND CHANGED MY REAR WHEEL SPACING. THE CHANGES REALLY HELPED, THE CAR HANDLED THE BEST IT EVER HAS UNTIL HALF WAY THROUGH THE MAIN. IT STARTED PUSHING AGAIN AT ENTRY TO MIDDLE TURN. WHAT WOULD CAUSE THAT?
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Originally posted by BRIAN MCCLAIN:
I HAVE A 85 CAMARO. IT GOES IN THE TURN GOOD AND COMES OUT PERFECT. MID TURN IS THE PROBLEM, BAD PUSH. I HAVE TO GET COMPLETLY OUT OFF THE GAS TO GET IT TO TURN. I HAVE TRIED ALOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS BUT NOTHING HAS HELPED. I HAVE JUST RAISED RF TO 1300 FROM 1100 AND RR TO 200 FROM 175 BUT HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TRY IT OUT YET.LF IS 1050 AND LR IS 200. ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT HELP?


Mr.Kwik
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 87
posted May 29, 2005 09:39 PM  
What is your pinion angle at? How is your torque arm mounted? Also make **** sure your not bottoming your right front strut/shock out on compression, if so bump your spring rate up with a 50# heavier spring. If it's too tight on entry try and space your right rear out (different wheel off sets). These cars tend to be a little more pushy on a heavy track than most. I usually take a little left rear bite out, raise the RR tire pressure X 2 pounds and run as little fuel as possible. Hope this helps

Mr.Kwik
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 87
posted May 29, 2005 09:42 PM  
If the track goes dry slick these cars love alot of left rear bite. but if its too pushy try the stuff in the last post.

Donald g man
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 14
posted May 30, 2005 08:38 AM  
When the track changes and the car set up is right in the beginning, but goes tight towards the end, try setting the car up for the last ten laps. Does the track take rubber and that causes a push or is rear percent decreasing due to fuel burn? Are your shocks going away and binding, just thoughts to try.

    

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