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flanndad#17
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posted April 05, 2005 02:35 PM  
I removed all the steering on my 1980 Cutlass a long time ago, Now it's time to put it back together and my questions are:

1. The drag link has a bow to it, and as I remember the bow went towards the back of the car, is this correct?
2. The tie rods mount on the back side of the drag link, correct?

If both of these statements are correct, mine won't mount back up, without the tie rods hitting the crossmember of the frame.

If I turn it around won't the pitman arm and the idler arm interfear with the tie rods when the car dips.
I do have all the correct parts according to the parts I removed they seem to measure up the same.

Flanndad
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posted April 06, 2005 06:38 AM  
Boy, I'm losing faith in you guys.
I thought with all you metric guys out there this would be a easy question.

I mounted it up backward, as least what I think is backward's. And it fits.
I just want to get it right before I weld up the frame.

racin78p
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posted April 06, 2005 05:39 PM  
Buddy I am seperated from my car by about 40 miles. But when I get back to it (tomorrow night) I will check mesurements/set up and let you know. I am pretty sure as to the answer to your question, but I want to be 100%. Sorry for the delay, partner! Race on.

Are you sure the Pittman arm and Idler are the stock ones? Middle of center link should bow towards the crossmember with the outer ends angling to the front of the car.

Have you changed the spindles or lower control arms from stock?

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flanndad#17
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posted April 06, 2005 06:47 PM  
Everything is stock on the car.
And everthing I bought i'm sure are the Moog stock replacement parts.
All the pieces measure up to the one removed also.
I did put a new front frame horn on and everything measured up the same as the car in the junkyard I took the measurements off off.
I measured steering gearbox mounting bolt to crossmember, pitman arm to crossmenber, and idler arm bolt to steering box bolt, and all the measurements are the same.
I'm sure it is just something dumb, I'm overlooking, typing this I'm wondering if I can turn the drag link over with the bow to the rear.
I'm going to have top go out to the garage and try.

racin78p
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posted April 07, 2005 10:21 PM  
Okay, I did the measurements and here it is:

Drag link (center of it) bows to the rear; the center link ends, right and left, face towards the front.

Inner tie rods DO mount on the rear of the center link (drag link). That is, nut and cotter pin facing forwards, to the front of the car.

Once again, the bow on the center (drag) link should be closest to the engine cross member ( bow to the rear of the car). If all the parts are right, and they are installed right, there should not be a problem. If this does not answer your questions, and everything is bolted up right, then there is the possibility that the new sub (frame horns) are not the right ones, or replaced within the right dimensions, ect. Double double triple check all your mounting of parts, one by one. This can't be a nightmare. It is rather easy, partner.

Let me know if this doesn't help and you are still having problems.

Good luck and, Race on.

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racin78p
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Flanndad
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posted April 08, 2005 09:10 AM  
THanks for the help that's how I thought it mounted up.
I drilled to new holes for the idler arm and moved it forward less than an inch.
This weekend I plan on cutting the horn off and sliding it forward the same amount.

rico 08
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posted April 09, 2005 06:40 AM  
Is it hitting the little "nub" that sticks out in front of the crossmember?..we always cut that off with a torch.it's close on a stock metric and if anything is just a little bit outa whack it will hit.

    

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