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TOOLBOY
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 40
posted March 29, 2005 08:08 PM  
CAN ANYONE GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE SAGINAW 3 SPEED TRANSMISSIONS BEING BUILD AS A DIRECT DRIVE TRANSMISSION OUT OF TONGANOXIE KANSAS? HAS ANYONE RUN ONE OF THESE TRANNYíS YET? THEY CLAIM THAT IT DOESNíT TURN THE WHOLE GEAR CLUSTERS WHEN IT IS IN HIGH.

HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM A 3 SPEED WITH 1ST GEAR REMOVED?
I HATE TO SPEND $650 AND NOT GET ANYTHING FOR IT EXCEPT A TRANNY WITH 1ST GEAR REMOVED.

PLEASE HELP IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON THESE. WE DONíT HAVE THE MONEY FOR A BERT OR BRINN SO IF THIS WILL HELP US PLEASE FILL US IN.

mrracing
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 20
posted March 29, 2005 08:14 PM  
Go to www.mrracingequipment.com for more information on their design of this transmission, or call 920-528-7090. Thanks

Istock66
unregistered Total posts: 20
posted March 29, 2005 09:28 PM           send a private message to mrracing   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
Ive got a tranny from Dale in Kansas. Nothing better that I know of. The input output and a coupler the size of half a pepsi can rotate in high gear!!!

a lightened 3 speed rotates everything including the cluster on the side in high.

I buy stuff all the time from MR equipment and last I knew they ordered one to copy it and improve it, but on their site I dont actually see it listed, Ive been checking??

Racer0
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 149
posted March 30, 2005 03:04 AM  
Got one this winter but haven't run it yet. If all things go right I can tell you what I think of it after this weekend. He has some info at www.mpstransmissions.com

racin78p
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 333
posted March 30, 2005 12:38 PM  
If your rules allow it, (my local track rules so NO!)and you can spend the money (cheap, I think) then DO IT!!! I have a few buddies who have run them and they like. Just like Mikey. The shift pattern is different but who cares. You don't loose horsepower trying to turn a bunch of extra weight when in third gear. Direct drive, anyone?

Race on.

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iowatoolman
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 369
posted March 30, 2005 10:02 PM  
any extra rotating weight that you can cut doesn't gain horse power but you don't lose it from the motor IE

500hp motor
-50hp rotating weight
____
= 450
500hp
-25hp rotating weight
____
= 475hp
a net gain of 25 hp
not really gaining hp but your not losing it!!!

drive hard or drive home

stockcar5
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 578
posted March 31, 2005 05:49 AM  
i disagree,
you ARE gaining horsepower...just at the rear wheels, not at the flywheel. a chassis dyno will show you this.

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iowatoolman
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 369
posted March 31, 2005 11:24 PM  
how can you gain??? the motor only puts out so much power and you loose it through gear reduction part of what you said is true you are making more power at the rear wheels because of less rotating mass if you look at my examples you will see

also which takes more power to turn
imagine a merry go round
no kids on it compared to full of kids
which is going to take less power to turn???

on the flipside of the coin drag racers put a heavier flywheel in to increase their 60' times because of centrifugal force.

quote:
Originally posted by stockcar5:
i disagree,
you ARE gaining horsepower...just at the rear wheels, not at the flywheel. a chassis dyno will show you this.



Istock66
unregistered Total posts: 369
posted April 01, 2005 05:59 AM           send a private message to iowatoolman   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
your both splitting hairs for no reason.

he said right in the part you quoted, AT THE REAR WHEELS

kcsparky
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 9
posted April 02, 2005 06:29 PM  
I ran one last year, and going to run it again this year. Thought it was great. Shift pattern is the same as usual, just don't have 2nd gear. What he does is takes stock cases, puts all brand new oem stock parts in them (gears, seals, etc.), then grinds all the teeth off of second gear. That way when you put it in third gear, 1st and reverse no longer are turning. I ask him what kind of lubricant to use in it, if we should use synthetic or anything. His reply was "Put whatever you want in there" He said the way the thing operates, he didn't care if we ran 10W40 in there. HaHa. He guarantees everything internally. If you have any problem with the transmission, other than a broken case. Bring it back to him, and he'll replace it free.

    

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