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Mr.Kwik
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posted March 25, 2005 12:03 PM  
Anyone out there had any luck with a powerglide?

AtomicPunk
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 130
posted March 25, 2005 12:27 PM  
We use a glide. I love it. We put the TCI circlematic reverse pattern kit in it with a small RV tranny cooler, runs great. We run it in hi (1:1) and set our final drive with rear gears, ex: 6.50 ring and pinion in hi and your final is 6.50.

dirty58
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 115
posted March 25, 2005 07:29 PM  
WE RUN A FEW CARS WITH OUR TEAM AND TRYING ONE THIS SEASON LETS HOPE FOR THE BEST

shadowsarge
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted March 26, 2005 07:31 AM  
Here it's about 50/50, glides and 3 speeds. Only bad thing about the glide is it can't be push-started, we have to have a working convertor. The man to beat here has used a glide for years without any problem.

I have a problem with mine, keeps blowing the o-ring seal around the dipstick tube.

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racer17j
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posted March 26, 2005 08:20 AM  
If you can run without a torque converter a PG is good. Bonus if you have the internal valve control so there are no hoses needed. You can also push start a PG if you have a rear pump installed or a bump start valve. Otherwise I'd run a light 3 speed/clutch setup.

OvalRocket34
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 81
posted March 27, 2005 08:22 AM  
I've run both a PG and a saginaw 3 speed, both tricked out and I prefer the powerglide. If they are set up correctly, they work just as good as a 3 speed. The guy that did my trannys is out of NY and he is no longer doing them, so I have to Keep my fleet of 3 happy for awhile!

BRIANSTINNY2
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 7
posted April 21, 2005 09:33 PM  
GLIDE IT MAN!

powerglides
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 374
posted April 22, 2005 04:38 AM  
17j I can't believe you of all people. With your vast experience and knowledge, can't get a glide to last. They have about 1/2 the moving parts of a turbo and last for several seasons when I build them. They are the single most widely used racing tranny in the country bar none!

regal 22
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 28
posted May 01, 2005 06:54 AM  
A poweglide in low with no cooler for 2 years
on a 5/8 mile track, no problems, quick question, with a 307 rear what is my final
gear ratio

bubba0six
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 146
posted May 01, 2005 08:07 AM  
i wouldnt trade my glide for 2 of any other tranny. so far 2 years on mine 1st gear 3/8th mile track. i love it!

bubba0six
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Total posts: 146
posted May 01, 2005 08:11 AM  
regal its either a 5.40 or 5.71 it depends on which gear your glide is if its a 1.76 glide then 5.40 if its a 1.86 glide then its a 5.71

racer19x
Dirt Full Roller

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posted May 01, 2005 07:47 PM  
been using glides for 10 years now. No problems if you change the fluid every now n then.

DangerZoneRacing
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posted May 01, 2005 08:08 PM  
Everyones been telling me to run one being ive been talking about going to a 3 speed. I currently run a th350. My question is....how do you tell which powerglide is which? Between the 2 different gear ratios they had. My buddie has one for sale but he doesnt know which one it is or what its out of. Well I want the 1.76 one. Thanks for any help guys.

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hoosier transplant
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posted May 01, 2005 08:11 PM  
Got a question for all you glide guys. Just put motor and glide back in car. I run a 10 inch converter. I can't remember how much tranny fluid it takes. Also, what is the proper procedure for checking fluid level. Thanks and everyone be safe.

powerglides
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 374
posted May 02, 2005 09:27 AM  
Dangerzone, measure over the output shaft splines with a dial caliper. 1.150=1.82 (4-6 cyl) and 1.170=1.76 (8 cyl) right about 99.9%of time.
Hoosier, the proper level is 3/4" above the panrail (surface where pan bolts onto) start with 6 quarts, 7 if new converter. then check running in park.

Xtreme12x
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 874
posted May 02, 2005 09:44 AM  
Better keep a Glide in the trailer to go with the one you got in the car. I missed 6 races last year due to failures, no matter who built them, no matter what gear I ran, no matter the amount of bite we had in the car.. They'd eventually break. Once you break 2 of them, for the price you could have had one good three speed setup that'll last forever. Went to a three speed this year and now we're breaking motors instead of trannys.

powerglides
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posted May 04, 2005 09:16 AM  
Extreme,
Sounds like you are hard on equipment. I have had teams that can't keep a glide in one piece to save their a$$. While other teams that just take them to the winners circle every couple weeks (in the same class) so IMHO it is a team problem not a tranny problem.

Xtreme12x
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posted May 04, 2005 10:14 AM  
If it was a team problem we would be breaking more than transmissions. Face it, there are way more problems with a powerslip than there are in a three speed and a clutch. We had tried different fluid, fluid levels, different ball valves. We had over 1000 wrapped up in powerslide trannys for a limited mod class... Thats rediculous... We can't run a bert/brinn/falcon. I would highly reccommend against the powerglide. There is a team here in town that runs them faithfully, they carry one in the car, one in the trailer, and one at the shop, and normally when they break one, and put another one in it will break too. They had to go through three of them in one night last year. If you bottom out a driveshaft, the three speed won't break as fast, the powerslip will bust all up. If you burn up a rear gear you'll take the tranny with the gear, if you run a three speed it won't. Three speed is gears, powerslip uses clutch disks and fluid. Which would you rather turn your race car with, gears or fluid, make the choice. It's easier to spend 600 now on a three speed setup than 1000 through the course of a year on powerslip stuff.

Powerslip from bushore ran me right at 450 plus a new coupler was 150, ball valve and tranny li nes was right at 125.. so you can wrap 725 up in one race ready setup, waiting for them to burn up or break
Three speed at a u pull it-35-75
bellhousing, clutch, tho bearing kit-625
in the end they cost the same and with the powerslip you better hope it don't break or you can't run.... At least with a three speed you can put the car in high and get pushed off if one of the gears breaks. Plain and simple, the three speed is 100 percent better than a powerglide. I was all for the powerglide when I first ran them, bu tafter we started breaking them, no matter what we did to them... then it is not a team issue. When the car next to you breaks powerslips all year too, it's not a team problem. There is only so many things you can do to a tranny, and I certainly do not want to babysit my transmission all year long

eenfield
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posted May 04, 2005 10:49 AM  
I dont want to start anything with ANYONE, but why can some people run em for several seasons with no problems, and the team parked next to them in the pits cant make it but one or two nights?

What kind of problems are you guys having with them anyway????? I spoke with Bushore once about something related, and while on that subject, he said that he had teams out there who had severe breakage problems that ended up being geometry related. Is that part of what those of you against them are seeing?

There has to be something good about them, other wise they wouldnt be so popular, not just in dirt racing, but in the drags as well.

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powerglides
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posted May 04, 2005 12:05 PM  
Xtreme, I REALLY don't mean to be a a$$ here but you say If you bottom out a driveshaft or burn a rearend! Those are not team problems? Now you are right that a pg will not stand the physical abuse a cast iron will but if your program is really solid there should be no physical abuse.

Xtreme12x
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posted May 04, 2005 10:56 PM  
I had never said that we have bottomed out a driveshaft or burnt up a rear gear. I have ran the same gear and same driveshaft since we started. Hey, it's not my money to spend and spend and spend. Bushore will tell you every reason why it broke, but when we put a three speed in it never broke again? Come on..

There are guys that get a good one that will last all year, then a re build and go again ,then you'll get one that won't last 2 nights. Never seen a 3 speed do that.

speedy2
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 54
posted May 05, 2005 05:30 AM  
I dont have any problems runnin my PG change fluids every so often and have it freshed each year. All i have to say is geometry. 99 percent of the time that IS the problem. If you break 3 in one nite there must be something wrong other then the PG and if its who your talkin about Extreme look at the crowd thats down there and thatll probobly tell you why 3 broke that nite. People that probobly dont know what there doin. Get all the geometry right and you wont be disappointed. just my opinion

Xtreme12x
Dirt Forum Champ
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posted May 05, 2005 10:17 AM  
Speedy I know what yer sayin about the group down there...

I just never had any luck, they are a very common Stock Car tranny, just seen too many people have bad luck with them (Including myself)

You ever get that leak figured out?

speedy2
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 54
posted May 05, 2005 12:41 PM  
NO i havent found it yet. has to be cracked head or one of the cylinder walls has a small crack in it

zeroracing
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posted May 05, 2005 12:44 PM  
Every powerglide I have seen has burnt up or outright blew up. ONe guy in a mod told me I was dumb for getting a falcon, and his powerglide was better, then his powerglide blew up in our heat. That was not the only one he broke all season. Another street stock guy was bragging about his, and it burnt up after a few shows. Maybe people have better luck, but man alot of guys have terrible luck with them. For the money I think that a direct drive, or good manual with a clutch will work better.

ryan
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posted May 05, 2005 08:58 PM  
T-350 Out of a junker for free all it took was seals and filters every year and it didn't need them it was just preventive maint. 5 years and counting

merlinmech2
Dirt Maniac

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posted May 08, 2005 08:38 AM  
Extreme and powerglides, if you guys ever race against each other,that would be one for the books. You are both right. I've been running glides for 10 years now and never had any problems til a coulple years ago. Broke 3 in one season. It was a mounting issue. I had them all repaired but swore if I broke another, it would be the last. Bought a manual set-up used for when it happened. Still got the glide in with no problems since. I spent less on the used manual set up than ONE glide.
Like I said, you are both right. For someone in an entry class I would recommend the manual. Sure do like the glide on restarts thou.
I will say I've never had a glide fail when it was'nt caused by something with the car(usually driveshaft).

The Vanburen Rocket 22
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 30
posted May 08, 2005 01:23 PM  

 
We have ran the glide for the past 4 years with many different motor combinations from the 358 c.i. at 7400 rpm to the 434 c.i. with the sprint car wing on it at the street stock outlaw race our track has here, and have never ever had a problem with it! Maybe i am just lucky, and found one **** of a tranny shop!

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