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stew6371
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 38
posted March 14, 2005 06:59 AM  
im new to this site and a new driver on dirt.i am a converted dragracer. i would accept any and all advice anyone would be willing to give. i am currently looking at two cars from this site to purchase. im just trying to make up my mind. i believe they r both street stocks. i live in norman,ok and will be racing at oklahoma sports park in ada,ok when i get started. thanks again for all advice you all give.

stevenm
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 43
posted March 14, 2005 07:47 AM  
Welcome Stew6371.

New to dirt racing hugh?

My advice is stand on it and turn left lol!

racin78p
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 333
posted March 14, 2005 10:10 AM  
Be smart, be careful on your first car purchase. Take a knowledgable dirt racing friend with you to ask questions, look at car, ect. I did on my first one, and I still ended up putting three times the money into it than I thought I would have to. But I wanted it to be better than right so,... Try to keep your first year simple. Go out, drive the car and learn. Ask questions about what does what (like say suspension modifications, tire stagger, ect.). The most important thing to remember is to be sure your car is SAFE and YOU are safe! The next most important, have a blast! If it isn't fun, there isn't any enjoyment or reward for your efforts.

Good luck, and do not be timid about asking questions on this forum. Lots of guys and girls who have been there and done that! Race on.

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racin78p
if it ain't fun, then don't run

shadowsarge
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted March 14, 2005 11:37 AM  
I agree with 78p. Find someone with experience to look at any car you are considering buying. What looks like a good deal may cost you a good deal, of money in the long run. Joining this forum will be one of the smartest things you will do. These guys, and girls are great about giving advice. Searches and the "tool box" will cover a lot of your questions.
Have a great time and stay safe.
Welcome to the addiction/sickness we call dirt racin!

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stew6371
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 38
posted March 14, 2005 02:38 PM  
i appreciate all advise so far. i have friends who have raced on dirt, so i have some knowledge of the sport. one thing though i have been told to buy a used car instead of building one cause it would cost less. i have an 84 olds cutlass that i was going to build. like i said i was told i would spend lots more money building one than if i bought one. any input?

36 Race Team
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 45
posted March 14, 2005 03:44 PM  
get a set of rules for the class you will run in take them into consideration before making your purchase the cars you are looking at may be illegal in some form or another...rules for this class vary from track to track

shadowsarge
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted March 14, 2005 07:32 PM  
It seems most people that build their first car always advise others to buy instead of build. I would have to agree, bought my first and have put quite a bit of money in it so far. You'll be surprised, maybe even shocked how much you can spend. If I would have built it from scratch it would have been a lot more expensive. All those little things to complete it add up very quickly.
Just my 2 cents....

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eaton89
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 268
posted March 14, 2005 08:08 PM  
Yep! Buy one dont build it yourself. I built my first car for our first year our track opened. It was cheep to build but no one at our track new what the heck they were doing including me. I built my cage out of black pipe and used a drag seat and put a boat tank in it and went racing. It was awsome. tore the car up beyond fixing in 6 races. Broke the rearend 2 times, Bent the rear of frame and smashed every panel on the car beond recongnition(nice spelling). The next year I spent a little more money and built another car. Had fun and didnt tear it up. 3rd year spent more money on the car and ended up 2nd in points. This year I put a real cage in it from front to back, new motor, new seat, bew this , new that.Spent way to much money on it this year. If I were to do it again I would buy a cheap safe car. Learn to drive it and work on it. Then I would go out and buy a car that has everything on it I need for the class I am going to run or at least as close to what I want to run as I can find. Those little parts and upgrades add up to a huge amount of money. They all told me this to begin with but I though I can build a car. Well I can but not as cheep as I can buy one. And the cost of doing over and over tell you get some of this stuff figured out like mounting shocks and the right hight of springs and weight. Mounting radiators correctly and making them work. I could go on( I think I have!!lol) but all the little things when put all together becomes alot of head achs and worry's. I'm getting it figured out and probable a better racer for it but alot broker too. Next year I am going to sell the car I just made all new(stupid) and buy me a modified and start all over. Got to love it!!

stew6371
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 38
posted March 14, 2005 09:08 PM  
if i find a complete car for cheap than i can see that. but if the car is a roller,then i dont see how it would b much cheaper. i have to buy little parts either way to set car up for my track. i have almost a complete motor,so my costs there wont be very high.i cant see paying 2500-3500 dollars for a roller which is basicly a car with a cage, which i can install myself.

DirtDogg
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 38
posted March 14, 2005 10:42 PM  
Get the track rules and don't be over zelous on the car find what you are looking for make sure the car fits you get in it ie, pedals, steering. A confortable race car is a big plus look at the frame the floor pan ect ect. have fun and be safe. PS if you build it they always cost moreeeeeeeeee.

Steve Dupree
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 316
posted March 15, 2005 04:29 AM  
We stared running at the beginning of last year and we ran every race at two different tracks so we got alot of seat time fast. But when it comes to setting up the car everyone has there ideas on what will work and what wont. We had a blast building are car but we are lucky thats what i do is paint and bodywork and we have are shop here in NM so we saved alot there.My advice is too find one person that you like and that is good at your track and listen to him. When you are smarter than him move on to the next step if you ever are smarter than him and let him help you find a car for your track.I know here in Deming we have several cars that are great buys. There is a guy down the street selling a running modified with great motor for 3500.00 its not the best mod but it would be a great starter for someone or a great car to turn into a superstreet or streetstock depending on what your rules are. There is another guy here that has a streetstock with fresh motor and it has won like 6 features at are track and he also wants 3500.00 but it more like alot of peoples bombers. Seven inch wheels,360cu. in,street tires 2 barral cast iron intake so like alot of bombers. We were a drag racer also and wow there is alot to learn to race dirt so find someone and listen and have fun. Get ready to spend some money what ever way you go if you want a fast car you will always buy the best for it and you will spend tons. lol Now go out and " GET ER DONE "

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gould
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 730
posted March 15, 2005 04:35 AM  
Mark Noble runs a sway arm

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Xtreme12x
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 874
posted March 15, 2005 12:41 PM  
what gould??? He runs the same chassis as me and I dont run no dang sway bar lol

littlesister
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 48
posted March 15, 2005 09:14 PM  
Hey Stew,

Just find someone to hang out with who is familar with dirt track racing. More importantly, someone who races at the track you will be racing at. This is a great forum to learn from. Read the posts everyday and don't be afraid to ask questions. We're all here to help each other. HAVE FUN!!

~lil sis

Eric Pattridge
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 48
posted March 16, 2005 10:13 AM  
Another converted drag racer..lol. You will love the dirt racing. Like the posts before on here, look closely before you buy, get a car that has been built for your first, and this forum is excellent for info. Above all else think SAFETY. Make sure there is no cutting corners on safety, and welcome to the world of dirt. I used to drag race too.

77k
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 174
posted March 19, 2005 12:37 AM  
there are some cars at tulsa for $2,200, race ready. 918 688 1519 earl.

racin78p
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 333
posted March 19, 2005 08:48 PM  
Okay, for the SECOND time on this forum I will admit it. I used to do the 1320 myself. Ran a Mustang first, then a Camaro. The thing about drag racing is,...no mistakes or you are done for the night. I like dirt cause I can make a small mistake (right) and still be there in the hunt. Plus there is something about dirt (and ROCKS) getting blasted into your face that is very envigorating,...at least until you are in front and THEN,...

Good luck stew6371! Race on.

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if it ain't fun, then don't run

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bigcitycowboy
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 89
posted March 19, 2005 09:25 PM  
hey stew i know exactlly what u mean. how can it be that expensive? if u can put the cage in urself..... well trust me and the others, ITS WAY MORE EXPENSIVE!!! im currently building a 79 buick regal(metric chasis). i did all the cage work myself,(well ordered it from CSC). i wouldnt do it again, the cage is OK? but its not really worth the hassles, and the instructions kinda sucked. but i got it in. but u still gotta add all the small parts. im looking approx. 2500 bucks and w/o rear end.now i did take alot of parts off my old car, motor & trans, seat, gauges.etc... but i could do it again, i would definately buy a complete car or roller. i started this project last season, and im still not done, if i had bought a roller, i woulda made the start of the season, and been RACING, i too am a drag racer, still do it too, but DIRT track racing is AWESOME!!! the rush doesn't end after 9 seconds, it keeps goin lap after lap.
just my thoughts hope it helps.. jeff

mechanist
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 33
posted March 20, 2005 10:26 PM  
Stew
Just to echo bigcitycowboy. It is WAAAAAAAY more expensive to build your own. All those little nickel and dime parts really add up. Build your own, you get exactly what you want, if you know what it is you want (need) that is.

The best advice I could give, is hold off a bit, and hang out at the track, help in the pits, learn as much as you can. I have yet to meet racers that wouldn't help a new guy learn what he needs to know. After a while, you will know what you are getting in the way of parts when you look at a car, and can make much wiser purchases in used cars. Get some catalogues, and get familiar with prices of parts, so you know the value of what you are getting when you look at used.

Also, rules. Buy cars that are compatible with your rules, and measure simple stuff like wheelbase , engine setback etc to be sure, so you don't wind up buying something you can't use at your track without rebuilding. Good luck.

    

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