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Istock66
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posted February 25, 2005 05:03 PM           send a private message to racin78p   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
I bought the cheaper speedway iron. It said not to let it heat more than 10 minutes, at 20 minutes it wasnt hot enough to melt any rubber, at 45 to an hour it was melting the handle.

I guess its a piece of junk, has anyone got one that works well for them and a place to get it. I was hopeing this one at 60 bucks would work so I could buy two and keep going and switch of.

(XTREME12X please dont reply)

stockcar5
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posted February 25, 2005 06:04 PM  
i got mine from jr motorsports. works well. i takes me about 30min to do a tire. it gets hot fast enough and doesnt melt the handle or anything like that. i've used it for 1hr at a time tops.

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marshalr
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posted February 26, 2005 06:34 AM  
don't laugh ok.
i bought one of the less expensive speedway grooving irons, just like yours it folded up. I already gotta bring home three paychecks to race so i gotta keep stuff alive.
I took the gun apart and using an old silicone tube gun and a piece of wood, a hole saw, a drill, i mounted the block of wood in the cradle of the rtv gun, routed the wires and the cord through the wood. i gotta post a picture on monday if i can. BUT ! it still works .

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snowman
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posted February 26, 2005 01:20 PM  
Some years ago a friend was supplying grooved take-offs to most of the local guys.......I don't remember the exact brand name, seems like it was a German built piece........JR has them and calls them "professional grooving iron"........

They work very well and make the job much easier, neater, faster. The blade is not heated at times......as you begin to make a cut, the blade receives current and gets very hot and cuts the rubber easily......very hot, if you were to keep the blade in one place while energized, (like hitting an ingrained rock), it turns red and may actually melt......

You can cut with it all day long......no problem........

The bad news, almost 400 bucks......But, nothing else (that I've seen) even comes close to the job this type does......

Good Luck,
snowman

Raz_900
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posted February 26, 2005 01:52 PM  
The Ideal grooving iron I bought last year works great. Occasionally they're on Ebay for under $50 used. They've been around forever and have a good reputation.

New, you can get the iron and 2 blade sizes (#3 and #4 are what I bought) for around $75-$100. http://www.randys-racemart.com/tirgroovir.html

marshalr
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posted February 28, 2005 07:57 AM  

 
as promised a picture of my modified melted grooving iron.
It works great and the wood is actually a better insulator than the stock plastic.
It's patent pending too so don't get any ideas about setting up a 40 foot trailer in the pits and starting to sell these babies !

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leapinlizard
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posted February 28, 2005 08:54 AM  
I've siped and grooved about 50 set's of tires with mine. Still works like new. Speedway brand.

El Santo
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posted February 28, 2005 10:08 AM  
I have an Ideal grooving iron that was purchased in April, 1971. It still works as good as it did almost 34 years ago.

mansfief
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posted February 28, 2005 11:26 AM  
The handle melted on mine also. Bought one from Day, read the destructions, it said not to place the groover with the head down. The first one, I hung the groover on a nail, the heat went up and melted the handle. Well, I have spare parts now.

superdave
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posted February 28, 2005 12:29 PM  
I have an Ideal from the 80's and it still works. I never use it but I've loaned it out a thousand times.

Good luck,
Superdave

Istock66
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posted February 28, 2005 01:24 PM           send a private message to superdave   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
thanks guys, I sent that one back to speedway for them to exchange.

It didnt come with any instructions and until I looked at the racemart link above I couldnt figure out what to do with the siping blades I bought!!!

I had mine plugged in with the handle hooked on a bucket, so the hot end was hanging down.

I should get the new one tommorrow, and will make a stand to set it on plugged in hot end up. If it doesnt work Ill get another one from Jr which is the ideal brand.
???????????????????
1. will I want two so I can interchange them and keep going or will one stay hot enough? I am useing a #tip to groove with.

2. also with the siper do you put that on while grooving or use it unplugged and go 90 degrees accross the tire.

directions with the thing would have been nice.
Thanks again.

Istock66
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posted February 28, 2005 01:26 PM           send a private message to superdave   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
Marshall nice modify job, its too bad you have to do that to sooo many things us racers spend our hard earned money on!!!

stockcar5
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posted February 28, 2005 03:53 PM  
istock...i checked on mine...it is an ideal brand. gets hot fast and stay hot as long as you want. doesnt cool down until you unplug it.

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Istock66
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posted February 28, 2005 04:26 PM           send a private message to stockcar5   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
THANKS, ILL GET A IDEAL IF THIS NEXT ONE SEEMS REMOTELY MARGINAL..

THANKS AGAIN.

    

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