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Author Topic:   9" carriers
nailngoracing
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posted February 17, 2005 09:46 PM  
how many stock type 9" ford carriers are there?


racingfool1
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posted February 17, 2005 09:49 PM  
Not sure what you mean, there is 2 different yokes for the u-joint but a 9" is a 9". Some have 28 spline axles and some have 31, but still a 9" bolts in. Not sure if that answers your question though.

racin78p
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posted February 18, 2005 02:10 AM  
I believe there is an offset carrier and a centered one. If memory serves me right.

Big difference is the 28 vs 31 spline, and how wide the housing is. Obviously axles will be different in length, depending on axle housing width. Hope this helps?

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nailngoracing
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posted February 18, 2005 02:27 PM  
well in the chevys' there are different size carriers for the different range of gears.

and i plan on running a full spool so the spline value should not matter.

i just didn't want to buy a junk yard carrier and a 7.00 gear not fit...only a 2.98...3.70...and so fourth!

WesternAuto17
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posted February 18, 2005 02:56 PM  
I know what you're saying and I don't think that applies to 9" carriers. GM's are offset differently to compensate for the smaller pinion gears on higher raio gear sets.

I've never hear of 9 inches having different offsets, if they did, they would have to make different spools for different gear sets. I took a 3.50 gear off and replaced it with a 6.20 if that makes you a bit more confident.

dirty58
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posted February 18, 2005 04:00 PM  
differnt splines and yokes 3rd member the same

awkwardjeff
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posted February 19, 2005 07:04 AM  
not all 3rd memebers are the same.... there are different bearings for the spool.. My memory isn't too good either..... But this is what I remember. 2 different cases, BIG BEARING-SMALL BEARING. then you have 3 different spools for the ring gear, 2 small bearing one's......one of those is small AXLE (28 spline) the other has a bigger hole for the axle (31 spline), then the big bearing spool...... then you still have 3 different yokes. The yokes interchange to the pinions......
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Originally posted by dirty58:
differnt splines and yokes 3rd member the same


akadirtracer7
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posted February 19, 2005 09:57 AM  
I think there is a centered and offset pig to, outlaw 17 would problably know.and as youall said bearing and axles sizes length an spline.trying to get this old brain working it seems like some have equal length axle and some don't then theres a 9and3/8 with looks about the same but is a p.o.s. over my years of swaping them long as you have the right spline they usally interchange.

nailngoracing
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posted February 19, 2005 02:13 PM  
how much is a salvage yard carrier worth???

tall gears, no gears...etc.....

racin78p
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posted February 19, 2005 03:10 PM  
nailngorracing: I just bought 2 complete 9" rears for about what 2 carriers would be around here.

To all else: I know there are different axle lengths from side to side (try to follow me here) and after a little thinking which is always dangerous for me, the "off set" I was alluding to was the axle housings are not equal length, there for the offset carriers. There are big and small pin bearings and a group of different yokes, but I don't remember actual carriers being two different ways. A carrier is a carrier. 28 or 31 spline and bearing size is the difference. God help me, my brain is frying. See you guys! Race on.

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outlawstock17
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posted February 19, 2005 06:17 PM  
awkwardjeff is correct for the most part. there are at least 5 different yokes. long wide, short wide, long narrow, short narrow and daytona. there are a few different cases too. single rib small bearing and big bearing plus double rib war case and nodular case. most everything is interchangeable except for a 9 3/8". you can use a 9" pumpkin in a 9 3/8" housing and i believe you could use a 9 3/8" pumpkin in a 9" housing with a little grinding but nobody does this as 9 3/8" have no gear selection and the large pinion cup is weak.

as far as axle housings go, there are too many different lengths and bearing style/sizes to list.....plus there are a bunch of aftermarket spline sizes, bearing sizes and pumpkin designs as well.

there's a lot to know about a 9".

oh yeah, there are at least 3 different carrier bearings/races that i've run across too...

[This message has been edited by outlawstock17 (edited February 19, 2005).]

Eljojo
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posted February 19, 2005 06:52 PM  
AND there's the one with the big "N" on it-drag racers jones for those babies! If you happen to find one put it on E_Bay and you'll be smiling all the way to the bank. We don't need them because we're not launching a thousand horses on 10 inch slicks.

outlawstock17
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posted February 19, 2005 09:24 PM  
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Originally posted by Eljojo:
AND there's the one with the big "N" on it-drag racers jones for those babies! If you happen to find one put it on E_Bay and you'll be smiling all the way to the bank. We don't need them because we're not launching a thousand horses on 10 inch slicks.


that's the nodular case...

nailngoracing
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posted February 20, 2005 01:33 AM  
how can you tell a 9 from a 9 3/8?

if they both fit..will they both work?

and if the yokes are all interchangeable is it an easy quick swap?

so if i have several gear selections already set up in carriers with spools that match my spline...and one length driveline with one u-joint....will it be easy to just swap yokes each time?

    

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