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C2W
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 70
posted January 10, 2005 07:55 PM  
I have a 79 camaro that the motor mounts have been moved back in. Our rules say that the engine must be in the stock location with no set back, so I have to move them back up. The firewall has not been cut out of beaten back, so it is not sitting too far back. The frame is notched for the fuel pump to sit down in it, so it has definitely been moved. Could anyone give me measurements for stock location on one of these cars?? I know this is an odd request, but maybe someone has one of these that is not altered. Thanks in advance.

mudd on the tires
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted January 10, 2005 09:13 PM  
my cross member has not been cut but i left enough room to barely get a finger between the fuel pump and the cross member. i think it only set the motor back 1/2 inch or so.

C2W
Dirt Full Roller

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posted January 11, 2005 07:59 PM  
Thanks for the info. I guess the only way to really know how much it needs to move it to bolt the motor down in it and see how much it needs to go to keep the fuel pump out of the frame.

Blind Barney
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 120
posted January 11, 2005 10:00 PM  
don't some rules say that the (and don't quote me) the #1 spark plug must be at or ahead of the something or other? I can't recall but maybe your rule has that in it.

C2W
Dirt Full Roller

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posted January 12, 2005 05:24 PM  
Our rules say "engine must be in stock location". About 3 years ago, the rule was #1 plug in line or ahead of ball joint. I think. This car was built back then, and now I am trying to make it fit the new rules.

15a
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 354
posted January 12, 2005 07:48 PM  
My engine is in the stock location with stock style mounts. How do you want me to measure the location? Fuel pump to cross member clearance? Or location of the mounts?Let me know and i will check for you.

jay116
Dirt Freak

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posted January 13, 2005 02:21 PM  
The measurement of the actual mounts would probably be best, that way I can make it right before sitting the motor down in it.

racin78p
Dirt Freak

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posted January 16, 2005 03:14 AM  
Your Camaro may not have diffeent holes in the cross member (from the factory) like my 85' Regal does for engine mounts, but when we tried to set the motor back so #1 plug was even with the top left ball joint (rules) the fuel pump was WAY into the cross member. We still notched the c.r., but only came up with 1 1/2 inches of engine set back, plus had to drill new holes in the cross member to be able to bolt the motor mounts up. Using solid motor mounts will drop your motor down a bit and also will give a little set back too. Do you have your motor out? Seems to me you should have stock holes in the cross member for engine mounts already there. If someone set the engine back, they had to re-drill the holes.

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sc1 racing
Dirt Freak

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posted January 16, 2005 12:05 PM  
i guess the easyest way to do it would be use the stock trans x member bolt it up in stock location the install motor mounts where they sit...of course make sure engine is level, and height is good..

C2W
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 70
posted January 16, 2005 12:25 PM  
The car has solid mounts. I have an old motor sitting down in it, just to keep it out of the way. It has solid mounts on it now, and I intend to keep them. The firewall has not been altered in any way, so it cant be sitting back too much if at all. A friend of mine said that it might just sit lower because of the solid mounts, which is why they had to notch the frame. Does this happen often?? I just need a good explanation when I pass through tech as to why the frame is notched.

bryanb30
Dirt Freak

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posted January 16, 2005 06:08 PM  
cut a piece out of an old crossmember and fill in your hole, grind down your welds, then throw some dirt on it theyll never know

racin78p
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 333
posted January 18, 2005 12:53 AM  
Notch, what notch Mr. Tech man?

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