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Topic: Newbie looking for advice
Total posts: 23
posted October 13, 2004 11:55 PM
Hey guys im new to the group and im looking for advice on car setup.
Im sure most of you will laugh but im looking to shake up
the "drifting world" by competing with a 89 Crown Victoria. For
those of you that don't know drifting is a form of motorsports that
is based on style, its how well you can keep your car sideways with
the tires smoking going around a autocross type course.
professionals in the sport are mostly from japan and drive 5-600hp
turbo cars and enter turns at over 100mph. anyways the alst 4 years
i have been autcrossing with TRSCCA and our Car club(GESCC) at
Tennessee Tech in Cookeville. Driving a big american sedan has
forced me to learn to make the car oversteer to make it around sharp
turns. anyways on to the car.
Right now im running a mostly stock car it the 5.0l non HO version
engine and 4 speed autotrans with 273 diff. i have adjusted the
front a arms to give me the most negative camber possible and have
boxed in the rear arms and made UHMW bushings for them. i have "Tow
package" shocks with a helper spring on them on the rear and stock
police intercepto shocks on the front(blown). the motor is stock
only power gains are coming from a k&n intake and straight pipe
exhasut 2.25" Whoopie!! i bought a HO intake manifold and plan to
buy a set of headers and and throttle body. i also wanna ripp off
all the smog pump and ac ****. looking for a 373 posi diff and for
more suspension i think i need a rear sway bar my car didnt coem
with one stock but the interceptors did.
ok now what i need advice on is spring rates and shock ratios. the
problem im havign right now is violent whipp back when i come from
opposite lock counter steer. part of it is im having trouble keeping
up with the car through the steering wheel and the other is probably
the ****py shocks and springs.
Anyone that can give me some advice on what else i need to do to
setup my car id be happy to recieve it. Circle track guys are the
only people i know of to ask about big american sedans.
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Total posts: 753
posted October 14, 2004 12:05 AM
Ok I'll bite LOL!!!!! Let me tell you first, I am just GUESSING!!!! Just because we slide on dirt doesn't necessarily mean that we mean to do it. LOL!!! But if the car is jerking back on counter steer then I would think that softer springs and shocks with a harder rebound would help. My reasoning for this is if you slow down the weight transfer then it will stop the violent whip back. You may not have to soften the springs, just stiffen the shock rebound. I can't wait to see what everyone posts about this LOL!!!
Total posts: 287
posted October 14, 2004 11:15 AM
Me too! I've watched it on tv & it looks pretty cool!!!
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posted October 14, 2004 11:29 AM
If you actually had some power it wouldn't snap back,it would stay out there as long as you had the loud pedal on.Suspension wise i'd throw some stiff springs in the back(right rear stiffer)and along with the roll bar,that should make it loose.But you need more motor my friend...what does that thing weigh?...two tons?
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posted October 15, 2004 04:05 AM
being that you slide it both ways left and right you need to stiffen both rears. And much heavier shocks.
Like you are going to have to buy a racing shock that is 50/50 valved and very heavy/hard. I read an article on the pontiac GTO set up for drifting and I think they had rear springs stiffer than the fronts.
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