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RACINREBAL6410
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posted October 13, 2004 06:34 PM  
Given the following rules what is the best car to build
1. Only American-made sedans with a minimum of 108" wheel base plus or minus 1". No front wheel drive vehicles allowed. No Camaros, Firebirds, Mustangs or Capris. No convertibles or compact-size bodies. Racing seats and belts mandatory. Must have a complete roll cage around driver. Must have three horizontal safety bars on left side.
2. Street stock bodies must remain stock appearing. Stock steel roofs only. Panels may be replaced with sheet; metal or aluminum body panels allowed. All upholstery must be removed. All glass must be removed and a safety screen installed in the space of the windsheild. Full window screen mandatory (See General Safety Rules). All safety bars must be approved and padded. Car must have complete firewall and floor pan. Inside drivers may be boxed similar to that of a Limited Late Model. See Tech Inspector for specifics before you do it. If it does not meet specs you will be required to remove it. There must be three bars in front of driver at windsheild, see Tech. Must have full window screen - 1 x 2 maximum. No stock bumpers--must be pipe bumper.
You may add a spoiler to the rear. Six inches high and 45 degrees; nonadjustable; no wider then 70". The spoiler must be flat with no lip forward or backwards.
3. Street Stock suspension is as follows: Racing springs and shocks are permitted. No coil over shocks. Coil springs do not have to be the same size diameter side to side or front to rear. Leaf springs can be different size from side to side and have different number of leafs side to side. No lengthening or shortening of A-frames or spindles Spring buckets may be adjustable but you must have to remove them from car to adjust. Shock mounts must remain in relative stock location. Bottom shock mounts on rear end only may be moved 2 inches. Trailing arms must be same length. Top two the same length and bottom two the same length. Top does not have to be the same length as bottom. No adjustable shocks (fixed only).
4.steering quickeners ok .
5. Unibody frames may be tied together. Check with Tech Inspector.
6. Pipe bumpers mandatory--no O.E. bumpers. Ends must be rounded off. No sharp edges. Must not extend past body of car.
8. No aluminum driveshafts.
9. GM cars must run GM engines. Ford cars must run Ford engines.
10. Batteries may be placed inside of car. All batteries must be safely covered and secured. Only one 13-volt battery per car. No 18-volt batteries.
11. Stock fuel tank must be removed. Mandatory fuel cell must be mounted securely in trunk area. Gasoline only. No electric fuel pumps. Minimum four straps around tank. Fuel tanks 22-gallon max. Fuel petroleum base. (Gas) regular pump-type gas Cam 2 or equivalent. No trick additives. No alcohol.
13. Street Stocks must weigh a minimum of 3100 pounds.
14. Rear pan hard bar is optional.

redneck racing
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posted October 13, 2004 08:24 PM  
Rebal most of the guys on here would tell you to build a metric car that has coil springs im the opposite though, I like Novas the old car was a 73 the new car is a 77. I think leaf spring cars are easier to set up, you could also use a 70 to about 81 Camaro to fill your needs, the Camaro has a wheelbase of 108 and the Nova along with the metrics has a wheelbase of 111, the Nova for sure the metrics I think. Eddie

jay116
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posted October 13, 2004 09:03 PM  
His rules say no Camaros ,so if he wants to race a leaf car Nova is the only one.My personal preference is a metric car,parts are very accessible.

rico 08
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posted October 14, 2004 11:39 AM  
The way i'm reading the rules(gets me in trouble every time!)it's not referring to stock suspension for the rear trailing arms..unless they are assuming it,if it were me i'd ask about a heim joint adjustable four link with a panhard bar...more than a match for a nova..IMHO

robhbk24
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posted October 14, 2004 02:18 PM  
the part about the floor pan says complete but does not say stock so imo that means i can cut alot out and replace it with somethin lighter on the pass side and in the back/ if you run a tub like the late models the pass side floor serves no purpose otyer than to hold your mufflers up. when i first started in the class i'm in now we had to have a complete floor pan i ran a full tub with a floor made from window screen on the pass side to hold my mufflers in.

robhbk24
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Total posts: 372
posted October 14, 2004 02:25 PM  
also there is no spec as to width of the cage or mounting, imo that means you can run an offset chassis, we run our metrics like an imca mod with 2x3 tube doen the right side. i got a scr cage kit and cut 13 inches out of the center sleeved it and put it back together. i've driven a metric built full peremiter and offset and liked the offset much better.the way i read the rules gets me in trouble sometimes too. like the battery where we run it says it has to be under the hood, mine is in back, in europe the hood is in the rear the bonnet is in the front,therefore i believe that my battery is in the legal position.under the hood

RACINREBAL6410
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 43
posted October 14, 2004 06:16 PM  
Wheres a good place to have a metric car built around the south east

00vFan
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posted October 24, 2004 06:27 PM  
hmmm

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Istock66
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posted October 24, 2004 08:19 PM           send a private message to 00vFan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
I would run a nova 75-79.

neil rucker
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posted October 24, 2004 08:41 PM  
where are you located in the southeast? there are alot of em.

BIGDADDYBOZ
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posted October 24, 2004 08:59 PM  
I have seen 2 Novas run around here. 1 won the Hobby Stock Championship at the track i race at and the other is Istock66's and it flies.

redneck racing
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posted November 05, 2004 04:49 PM  
The leaf spring cars in my oppinion are easier to set up. Eddie

Edog1
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Total posts: 24
posted November 05, 2004 07:04 PM  
At the track I watch it is mostly leaf springs but a few years ago everyone was talking about coil cars. Just run what you want ,stick with it and make it work. I know there are advantges and disadvantages to every car and setup . Dont second guess your car choice because of what everyone else has.
If you get a coil spring car to work at a track with leaf spring cars your competition will be wondering about his car choice and vice versu

The Vanburen Rocket 22
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Total posts: 30
posted November 22, 2004 08:51 PM  
I Ran a metric car two years ago and a camaro leaf spring car last year and this next year. we got both cars to handle and run very well,we won features in both cars.if you can get a metric car to roll over just right it is also wickedly fast.so build what you like,they will both run good!!!

    

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