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jbracing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted July 20, 2004 06:52 PM  
How about safety for a category on this forum? What about it, moderators? This is a
topic that needs to be thought about and
discussed more. I feel like our car is pretty
safe, but I've seen some stuff that is downright scary. There are a lot of people
doing this that are either new to racing
period or this type of racing, and some of
them either don't know any better, or don't
put it at the top of their list. I guess my
reason for bringing it up is my 15 year old
stepson is going to be starting driving our
purestock in a couple weeks, and I can assure you that will make you think about it. I'm thinking mostly of stuff done in the
construction of the car to make it safer,
also proper installation of stuff like seats, belts, nets, fuel cells, etc...We've
all seen stuff done wrong, maybe we can help
more people do it right, so it'll stay fun!!
Thanks,
John

nate 11
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 316
posted July 20, 2004 06:56 PM  
sounds like a good idea to me..........later

jammin
Dirt Administrator

Total posts: 6243
posted July 20, 2004 09:23 PM  
I think it could make for some good topics and convo

any 1 have some pics of a earnhardt and petty bar ????

racin2much
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 46
posted July 20, 2004 10:30 PM  
Interesting question on the Earnhardt and Petty bars. Seems everyone I talk to has a different idea of what those are. I always called the Petty bar a bar that goes from the center of the cage (near the drivers right shoulder) down to the right front frame behind the control arm. And the Earnhardt bar is a center windshield bar that follows the contour of the two front uprights. Just read on another post calling it different. Kinda curious of what others call what.

bigcityracer
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 431
posted July 21, 2004 05:58 AM  
Personally the idea is great, but I really don't think people will use it. We all have something that another person would consider unsafe,but since we think it's safe we don't improve it.

WHAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ALL OF US, IS IN THE TOOL AREA A PLACE TO LOOK AT RECOMENDED OR CORRECTLY INSTALLED SEATS, HARNESSES, BELTS, BATTERIES AND SO ON. I PERSONALLY WILL BE INSTALLING THE SHAFT STEERING WHEEL AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE WAY OTHERS SET THEM UP.

FORUMS GREAT JAMMIN

jbracing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted July 21, 2004 06:56 AM  
I use the shaft out of a stock GM steering
column. It is collapsible and the upper
part is 3/4" so it will fit in one of those
steering column rod ends.
John

eborcim
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 303
posted July 21, 2004 07:18 AM  
I considered a petty bar the one from right shoulder of the driver to the front right frame "bend" behind the wheel. At the track we run, they call a petty bar the vertical support from each windshield bar to the top of the door bars. It helps support the halo. You can see it right behind the window post and the matching bar on the other side.


jbracing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted July 21, 2004 11:09 AM  
Those really help. I had a halo get bent down on a car that didn't have them. I also
added another one about 8" forward of the
main hoop after I saw a right front tire
(with car attached) hung in a friend's
driver side window. Window net won't stop
that!
John

kyuss71
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 20
posted July 21, 2004 08:34 PM  
As long as we all want to return to our tracks week after week, racing for money that probobaly will not even cover your entry fee what else can you do but assure yourself that you are going to get out of the car in one piece. Safty is paramount to me, & the people in the grand stands also.

fastow
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 168
posted July 22, 2004 10:19 PM  
SAFETY This a good topic to keep current I being a wrench for several years have seen alot of things that made me think wow that would bother me to race like that. To many take the thats not ever going to happen to me attitude. Whats a big pet pieve of mine is when is a track went out of there way to do much of anything to check out the safety of the cars. And it don't take much to do the simple things like check for fire extingishers and if the are full or dates on belts are current I think the local girl scott troop could almost do some of these simple checks I never seem to see happen.

jbracing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted July 23, 2004 04:56 AM  
First time I ever went to a dirt track I saw
a car that had the seat belts extended with
chain!! Years ago I was helping another guy,
he showed up with a cylinder head chained down to the floorboard behind his seat because he was close on weight. I said h-ell
no you are NOT doing that. He took it out,
ended up crashing out end over end about 4
times, it would have killed him if it came
out.

19J
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 370
posted July 24, 2004 06:55 PM  
Nothing against anyone so dont take this wrong.
Most people do NOT know how to install a safety harness the PROPER way. Ive seen track rules where it MUST be installed WRONG!!! or improperly. Think about that!? I think tracks need to learn safety as long as the drivers too. I will say im not perfect but i do have one he!! of a roll cage in the car.

stockcar5
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 578
posted July 24, 2004 09:01 PM  
i think a saftey section would be great. i've had questions before about collapsible steering shafts, seat mounts ect...

i dont think it matters what kind of car you drive...saftey is saftey! ask dale jr.

luke

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widebody
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 296
posted July 27, 2004 01:53 PM  
After a long talk with a the company that sells the HANS device at a show this past winter, I changed my whole approach to safety. I learned the proper way to install belts, at the correct angles, and such, bought new belts, have better padding, and plan on updating my saftey gear to include more nomex under my suit, especcially after Dale Jrs recent fire...

The biggest thing is time and planning. to many drivers dont fit the cars correctly, and the bars are badly placed near the driver with no thought of potential contact during an accident....

good thread!!!

    

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