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popwillis
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 30
posted July 08, 2004 09:46 AM  
What are the pro's and con's of running 1-2" smaller tire on the left front, -vs- straight up? 1/4 mile banked track, dry/slick most of the time.

racer17j
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Total posts: 5390
posted July 08, 2004 04:16 PM  
I run about 1" smaller LF when the track gets dry slick.
When the track is wet i try to get them very close.
Don't think stagger, in the front the two are not connected by a common drive axle so it's just wedge.
In the dry slick i put the smaller LF to lighten the load on the RR so that more work is done by the LR. Think of the the 4 legs on a table.

popwillis
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 30
posted July 08, 2004 10:28 PM  
Thank all...that's what I thought, but wasn't sure.

Hutch5375
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 123
posted July 19, 2004 05:20 PM  
TO get the 1-2" of stagger in the front, I'm assuming you're not running the same size tire? We have to run the same size and I can only get around 1/2" on 205/70R15s with pressure and heat. I've tried matching different brands but how can you do it?

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 5390
posted July 19, 2004 06:20 PM  
Here in northern IN the race shop will actually cut the tire down for you. That is put the tire on a machine and cut the tread off to the stager you ask for. You can also sit in the garage and use a razor blade with a vise grip pliers to shave down the tread. I never done this, but I watch a old timer do it. I asked him why and he said that he could not fine a tire to work out to 1" stager.

Hutch5375
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 123
posted July 20, 2004 02:39 PM  
Thanks for the help guys, hopefully we can get the lead sled some more stagger!

tobyone00
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted July 21, 2004 04:33 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by popwillis:
What are the pro's and con's of running 1-2" smaller tire on the left front, -vs- straight up? 1/4 mile banked track, dry/slick most of the time.

We have put 60lbs of air in the right front or rear and set them out in the hot sun for a few hous before, then put pressure where you like it.this will get you an inch to inch and one half

19J
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 370
posted July 24, 2004 06:47 PM  
tobyone does that work good? Does it mess with the "performance" fo the tire any. Ive heard it and suggested it before but have never tried it. I would like to know more about it. Thanks.

merc123
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 28
posted July 29, 2004 09:45 PM  
60lbs. of air looks like it could be a safety issue. Aren't you worried about the tire exploding? Especially in the hot sun?

quietmans
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 97
posted July 30, 2004 06:44 AM  
We do it with 40 lbs of air and have had no problems,tires still hold up just as good.

o5racer
Dirt Freak

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posted July 30, 2004 07:19 PM  
I work in a tire shop and trust me 60 pounds in a good (fairly new) tire that is just sitting there is no big deal. If you take an old worn out half bald tire and put 60 in it and drive around on it then there could be a problem. I have seen bald 13 inch tires come in with 90 in them. Thats scary.

neil rucker
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Total posts: 799
posted August 01, 2004 01:25 PM  
ive not seen any advantage to airing up a RADIAL tire and settin it out in the sun. this will work very easily on bias ply REAL racing tires, such as hoosier or american racer/mccreary, but radials dont stretch or grow as rapidly or anywhere near as much as bias ply tires.

bobaluuu
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 474
posted August 01, 2004 09:35 PM  
to go back to the question asked, I have been in situations where the front stagger was altered by a flat change out and the car handling went away completely so call it what you want but in my cars case it definately made areal difference.

    

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